Aspen500
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I have a good feeling that car's next stop will be at a scrap yard, or it will sit there another 10 years and continue to rot and sink into the ground.
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Oldiron440
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The man is very articulate but not a crook at least not yet!
Aspen500
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LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Aspen500
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Here's a gem. Ad says "car does have rust". Well thank you Mr. Obvious 
I can only imagine the rot on the underside, seeing how it's sunk up to the floors in the dirt.
74 mustang 2
I can only imagine the rot on the underside, seeing how it's sunk up to the floors in the dirt.
74 mustang 2
old yellow 78
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This was probably a fun little 'Stang to drive back in it's better days with the V6 four speed! Been sitting for a LONG time as suggested by the way the steering wheel has sunburned from being in one position for so long.
Seeing this old Mustang II in this condition makes me feel nostalgic....and old. I remember these '70's cars from my youth and high school days. Somehow it's just weird to see cars like this so deteriorated and....well, old. I got the same feeling today when I saw this old Aspen on EB:
1977 Dodge Aspen Special Edition | eBay
I remember when a neighbor bought a brand new one just like it only it had red interior. It was a VERY nice car, and like this one, it was loaded. They didn't have it for long, trading it in on a silver Cordoba. I'm certain that it was crushed decades ago. Somehow, they just don't seem that old - but they are! This was a pretty car when new.
Nice color combo of silver and blue, although I'm not usually a fan of silver. The blue interior seems to go well with it.
Quite classy back in the day!
Ziebart didn't seem to hold up it's end of the bargain on this one.
Seeing this old Mustang II in this condition makes me feel nostalgic....and old. I remember these '70's cars from my youth and high school days. Somehow it's just weird to see cars like this so deteriorated and....well, old. I got the same feeling today when I saw this old Aspen on EB:
1977 Dodge Aspen Special Edition | eBay
I remember when a neighbor bought a brand new one just like it only it had red interior. It was a VERY nice car, and like this one, it was loaded. They didn't have it for long, trading it in on a silver Cordoba. I'm certain that it was crushed decades ago. Somehow, they just don't seem that old - but they are! This was a pretty car when new.
Nice color combo of silver and blue, although I'm not usually a fan of silver. The blue interior seems to go well with it.
Quite classy back in the day!
Ziebart didn't seem to hold up it's end of the bargain on this one.
Oldiron440
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I actually saw a Mustang 2 on the road today! It was a v8 4 speed car, you could tell because it was missing most of the exhaust. It was a mach 1 with the spoiler and hood scoop, black with a few primer spots.
Its been a few years since I've seen one not at a car show.
Its been a few years since I've seen one not at a car show.
old yellow 78
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You bet that is unusual to see. I never really liked them back when they were new, but now, they are much more interesting. The '70's were a great time for me in many ways, and the cars from back then remind me of that time and what I was doing then.
Oldiron440
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I liked the Mustang 2 it was a nice driving car, I didn't like the notch as much as the hatchback. The Mach 1 was cool I liked the blue with white stripes. It was just as much of a dog as everything else new was. So I was building my hotrods.
Aspen500
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The Mustang II V-6, even with a 4-speed, was not what you would really call exciting to drive. Slow is more like it. A friend had a '74 2.8L (automatic) with factory dual exhaust and calling it a slug would be an insult to slugs. He tried a reverse to low once on gravel and,,,,,,,,,,nothing. The tire didn't spin even a little. Another buddy had a '78(?) Mach 1 with a 302 and it wasn't too bad (for the era anyways). Can't recall if it was an auto or stick though, it was 35 years ago. Aside from a Cobra Mustang II I see every so often, haven't seen another one on the road since the late '80's. The Wisconsin clunker program (aka road salt) did most of them in by then.
You guys are right, it doesn't seem like it was that long ago. Just realized my Aspen turns 40 in less than 2 months, on June 14th to be exact. It was just a young pup of 7 years old when I bought it. Dang.....................................
You guys are right, it doesn't seem like it was that long ago. Just realized my Aspen turns 40 in less than 2 months, on June 14th to be exact. It was just a young pup of 7 years old when I bought it. Dang.....................................
Oldiron440
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My Volare was a preteen at 12.
old yellow 78
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So, my '78 Aspen wagon is now 41 years old. In 1978, a 41 year old car would have been a 1937 model, which in 1978 would have seemed pre-historic. In 1958, a 41 year old car would have been a 1917 Brass Era car! I'm not sure why today 41 years old doesn't seem to be so ancient - at least to me. Could be simply that my perspective is changing as I grow older, or maybe that the changes to cars in the past forty years are not as dramatic as before. Either way, it is an odd perspective.
Aspen500
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I think it's, as you said, the cars haven't changed as much in the past 41 years as they did in the previous 41. I mean, there's a HUGE difference between a 1917 Dodge Brothers car and a 1958 Dodge. One big difference, besides the obvious, between 1978 and the cars built today is, in '78 there were a lot of nice looking cars, and a few butt ugly ones, and not 9 out of ten painted silver, black or white (yawn) In 2019,,,,,,,,,,well,,,,,,,,,,,,,,now it's the other way around. There's a lot of ugly cars (or just plain generic and bland) and only a few nice looking ones, and the colors you see are so bland in the majority of cases.
The absolute biggest difference though is, I can't see anyone in 2059 restoring any 2019 car. First, I won't be around to see it anyways, lol. Second,where would you get the electronic parts? Computers don't last forever and new cars are basically one big computer network. Heck, I've already seen cars and trucks of the 1990's get junked because (for example), the body control module went bad and there's no replacement available new or used (some can only be programmed to one single car, once, so there's no way to make it work in a different vehicle) and none of the module rebuild services can repair them either. Without the BCM, many won't even start (security system), and if they do you'll have no lights, no wipers, etc............It'll be the downfall of even cars like Challenger and Mustang in time. Even if it's possible to get new or rebuilt modules, to get it all to work like new again after 40 years, not to mention being able to program it to that car, would be so expensive, it'll never happen.
The absolute biggest difference though is, I can't see anyone in 2059 restoring any 2019 car. First, I won't be around to see it anyways, lol. Second,where would you get the electronic parts? Computers don't last forever and new cars are basically one big computer network. Heck, I've already seen cars and trucks of the 1990's get junked because (for example), the body control module went bad and there's no replacement available new or used (some can only be programmed to one single car, once, so there's no way to make it work in a different vehicle) and none of the module rebuild services can repair them either. Without the BCM, many won't even start (security system), and if they do you'll have no lights, no wipers, etc............It'll be the downfall of even cars like Challenger and Mustang in time. Even if it's possible to get new or rebuilt modules, to get it all to work like new again after 40 years, not to mention being able to program it to that car, would be so expensive, it'll never happen.
old yellow 78
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Yes. I think you are right there, unfortunately. As such, it would seem that we, as a group who are interested and actively keeping our '70's cars on the road, are probably the last to be able to do so without a degree in computer programming. In the next 40 years, there is likely to be so many changes, that cars may be a completely different type of machine and there may not even be a place for cars as we know them today. Very strange to think about.
Aspen500
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Of course, maybe some people will be keeping teens cars (?), cars from 2010-2019 on the road for the same reason we do with '70's/'80's cars. It's because the new ones are fine for everyday transportation, for the most part they're boring to drive and look at. Personally, I don't want, or need, most of the "features" they build into them now with all the automatic this, bluetooth that...........As always, there are a few exceptions to the rule but those exceptions are the so called "retro" styled such as Challenger and Mustang, etc. As I've mentioned before, I'd love to own a brand new car once in my life except there's really only one I would want to buy, and that's a Challenger or as a last resort second choice, Mustang. Since those are out of my price range, it'll never happen. I guess TECHNICALLY I could afford one but in reality, I can't. Something about car payments and I've only had those once, when I bought my Dakota in 1998 and it was paid off 19 years ago. Dang, have I owned that darn thing 21 years? Doesn't seem that long.
volare 77
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I guess todays teens will be restoring their UBER drivers car in 2059. LOL Honestly, todays kids do not have the same passion for cars and driving as we did. They will be restoring old cell phones. When i was a kid driving was a huge part of my life. That is how we met up. We had late night parking lot car gatherings, etc. Now the phone is their main communication vehicle.
Oldiron440
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Hahaha, Ding Ding Ding give the man a cigar!
As funny as this is the phone and the game system are the must haves now. Hell some kids don't leave the house.
Restoring a phone! Hahaha
Aspen500
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I do know of a few kids, a.k.a. teenagers, that are into cars either the current "old" cars or cars of the '70's and '80's but they are far and few between. I've heard of a lot of them who are of age to get a drivers license but don't have one. It's like, WTF people?! They have no desire to drive, have the independence, or whatever it is. I remember I couldn't WAIT to get my license. Turned 16 in February and had classroom drivers ed last semester and used the driving simulators (which in 1980 were pretty lame in hindsight). Had to wait for on the road training until the summer due to the number of students vs instructors and equipment.
Nothing like drivers ed in June and July. Three students plus instructor in a car with no A/C. None of the cars had it. Worst ones were the Malibu's where the rear door windows had fixed glass. Can you say sweat your ass off? Then there was the Chevette's that couldn't get out of their own way with one person inside, much less 4 people. "Accelerate up the ramp and match freeway speed before entering the lane". Yeah,,,,,,,,,,,,right. Not possible.
If a lot of those kids that spend all their time on the phone or playing video games, while snacking on crap don't change their ways, they won't be around in 50 years anyways, having died of obesity, heart attack, or some other random disease. My phone always was hanging on the kitchen wall and video games were an unknown. Weather permitting, outside was the place to be when I was that age. "When I was your age............" lol. Dang, it's happening to me and I said it never would!
Nothing like drivers ed in June and July. Three students plus instructor in a car with no A/C. None of the cars had it. Worst ones were the Malibu's where the rear door windows had fixed glass. Can you say sweat your ass off? Then there was the Chevette's that couldn't get out of their own way with one person inside, much less 4 people. "Accelerate up the ramp and match freeway speed before entering the lane". Yeah,,,,,,,,,,,,right. Not possible.
If a lot of those kids that spend all their time on the phone or playing video games, while snacking on crap don't change their ways, they won't be around in 50 years anyways, having died of obesity, heart attack, or some other random disease. My phone always was hanging on the kitchen wall and video games were an unknown. Weather permitting, outside was the place to be when I was that age. "When I was your age............" lol. Dang, it's happening to me and I said it never would!
