Stroker 360 or proc charged 360?

Shorty Thompson

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The Pro Charger gets confused with a turbo, all the time. It looks like the intake side of a (large) turbocharger attached to a pulley and gear-reduction driven by the crankshaft. Gear-reduction is not the correct term, but I couldn’t recall what the gear-increasement term is.
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Most of the “Street Outlaws” in the Oklahoma City area (if you watch TV) are using ProChargers ProCharger Self-contained Superchargers and Intercooled Supercharging Systems as well as either computer (ECM) upgrades if factory FI or digital fuel injection/ignition system if using an older car, so the computer can keep up with engine management.

The ProCharger system does needs a rather large intercooler to work properly (which means no A/C).

My Mopar club had a dyno night last Friday night (June 7), and there was a ‘82ish cream colored Ford Granada that was half rusted/half beat up (a great sleeper) that had a LS-based ProCharged system in it, that dyno’ed at over 1,200 HP. It had modern wheels on it but otherwise you wouldn’t know (but it did shake the building when it was running).

One of our club members was considering adding that to his late model Charger Hemi.
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Everytime I watch it they claim they use turbo chargers . Daddy Dave was using a Pro-Charger, but he switched to turbo charger too.
 

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What I was once told was that they let a supercharger generate besides a boosted inlet pressure also generate a lot of heat. This is to allow the large amount of fuel (methanol) to evaporate before it is inhaled into the engine.
But this is done for the Roots type supercharger where there is no room for intercooler.
But what kind of fuel did they run these chargers?
 

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But this is done for the Roots type supercharger where there is no room for intercooler.

SuperChiller 671 InterCooler that gets mounted between the intake manifold and the blower. Cold water circulates through the core adding upto 150HP, under extreme boosted applications with high loads for extended periods of time such as a marine application or Bonneville Salt Flat run.
 
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That wouldn’t be your pickup, would it?
If so, I would like to hear more about it (but maybe not in this thread – don’t want to hijack).
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You know you can make an easy 350 hp out of a NA 360 relatively cheap right? 380 even, with mega-torque.
And with aluminum heads, just a bit more cam, and 185psi cylinder pressure then 400/430 is easy, and @185psi it will make waaay more torque than your stock, or even lightly modded 3600pound chassis can handle. Traction will be the big concern.
With the right 224/230* cam you can even get some MPGs out of it, and
with aluminum heads you can even run 87E10. Don't try that with a Super.

IMO stroking or boosting your Mirada would be overkill, But I got nothing against that, cuz my LA367 is just that, in my 68Barracuda.... and I like it.
 
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With the price of machine work what it is now days if you need rods reconditioned or crankshaft reground a stroker kit is the only way to go. You will get better rods and all the parts needed for the bottom end including forged pistons. The bang for the buck is in the stroker then put a turbo on it later if you wish.
 

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With the price of machine work what it is now days if you need rods reconditioned or crankshaft reground a stroker kit is the only way to go. You will get better rods and all the parts needed for the bottom end including forged pistons. The bang for the buck is in the stroker then put a turbo on it later if you wish.
Yeah im planning on the stroker kit for sure like you said best bang for buck
 

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You know you can make an easy 350 hp out of a NA 360 relatively cheap right? 380 even, with mega-torque.
And with aluminum heads, just a bit more cam, and 185psi cylinder pressure then 400/430 is easy, and @185psi it will make waaay more torque than your stock, or even lightly modded 3600pound chassis can handle. Traction will be the big concern.
With the right 224/230* cam you can even get some MPGs out of it, and
with aluminum heads you can even run 87E10. Don't try that with a Super.

IMO stroking or boosting your Mirada would be overkill, But I got nothing against that, cuz my LA367 is just that, in my 68Barracuda.... and I like it.

185 PSI with a 230@.050" cam on 87? I don't know about that. That's a lot of compression for swill. Modern motors get away with it due to the advanced timing controls.
 

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185 PSI with a 230@.050" cam on 87? I don't know about that. That's a lot of compression for swill. Modern motors get away with it due to the advanced timing controls.
Don't forget aluminum heads, I know of guys running 10.5 to 1 on pump gas with aluminum heads.
 

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Don't forget aluminum heads, I know of guys running 10.5 to 1 on pump gas with aluminum heads.

I am actually, but not on 87! My current build has a 230 cam and 10.5:1 static compression. Runs happy on pump 93. I was able to get away with 89 on my previous build with aluminum heads, but that was a 9.5:1 motor that also had a 230 cam.
 

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My 452 is 9.5, I've run it on 87 but it liked regular unleaded over e10. On the strip I'd run the timing at 39° total and mix in about five gallons of race gas. But we put it on the dyno twenty five years later and hooked it up to one of those boxes that the tracks check compression with and it came up 9.1. We ran it on 97 at 39°, it's an old school build that even has a purple shaft in it that still made 520hp and 545tq with iron heads.
 

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185 PSI with a 230@.050" cam on 87? I don't know about that. That's a lot of compression for swill. Modern motors get away with it due to the advanced timing controls.
With 185 psi, the engine has so much bottom end I don't have to run the timing on the max. Instead, I run 14* initial,going to 28*@2800, then, delay the all-in, to 32* @3400
Then I put 22* back in on the Vcan, so cruising at 2250 in GVod the engine is cruising on ~43*.To this I can add 8 to10 more by the dash-mounted, dial-back, Jacob's timing delay-box.
Engine currently has well over 100,000 MILES on it and has always run the same 87E10. The rest is 367/A833/3.55s /3467 pounds/ went 93 in the Eighth, first time out. Only time out.
I ran a lil more pressure with the previous cam; a 223/230/110 Hughes; still on 87E10. That combo was dynomite.

At least a couple of guys on FABO are saying that they run right around 200/205 psi on best gas, and run detonation free.
 
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