V10 Magnum swap?

[AMC Diplomat]

Guys, stop me from making a poor choice, tell me a 2002 V10 Magnum out of a truck won't fit, because I just got a lead on an engine, transmission, ecu, harness, etc., soup to nuts, for $650 obo wants it gone.... which means i can pay less.

Tell me it won't fit. Otherwise my wallet will be lighter.

 

[Bongy337]

Well, if you got someone to help you with fabricating the motor, trans mounts and hammering the tunnel, it will work. IIRC, the V10 is a 360 motor with two extra cylinders. Go for it. That $650 would be like spending for beer and barbeque for the boys. Good luck. I will look forward to see how it turnd out.

 

[Mikes5thAve]

You'd have to go to electric fans to make it fit and that might be the least of it. There is a coolness to V10.

 

[AMC Diplomat]

Will the transmission fit without cutting out the floor and welding in a custom floor?

 

[Camtron]

Oh come on now, anything can be made to fit with a little massaging, lol That’s a deal that’s how much the van I pulled my 5.9mag from cost. What trans comes with, 47RH/RE? Could probably trade the trans to someone for a 5 or 6 speed manual, lol

 

[AMC Diplomat]

I finally got on Facebook and I've been hunting for an engine. The algorithm recommended this:
02 v10 magnum
I don't know which transmission that is

 

[Camtron]

Think that’s a 47RE I believe, they changed to 48re in ‘03…drop some coin and slap some pedals and a t56 6 speed from a Viper into it.

 

[Ele115]

Put a 16 cylinder Detroit in it with an air starter, don't half ass this

 

[Camtron]

2Stroke 24v71? 2,000hp should about do it.

 

[Ele115]

The doors would never close again but you would get a lot of "views"

 

[AMC Diplomat]

Put a 16 cylinder Detroit in it with an air starter, don't half ass this

You mean like this?

 

[AMC Diplomat]

Just poking around on the internet and it seems a lot of people have tried this but I've yet to see one completed car

 

[Camtron]

I’ve read that hemi truck engines use longer front accessories and can’t be directly swapped into hemi cars without the car front accessories or something along those line. So with a known history of doing the same shit repeatedly throughout history, I wonder if it’s the same for the V10 truck and car engines.
Edit: if that is a factor, it could be the difference between a real tight fit and cutting and massaging.

 

[80mirada]

The truck V-10 and the Viper V-10 are very different engines. They do however use the same bell housing bolt pattern.

 

[Aspen500]

Then there's the weight of a truck V10,,,,,,,approx 830 lbs.

 

[XfbodyX]

As much as id like to say go for it I cant. Ive a good bit of real world test fitting a good V10, A gen 1 forged assembly line ready to drop in crate motor/ T56 combo. And the reason the parts still sit is because there are many many many X10 better combos. Just this past month I considered using it in a sedan build but am opting for the R5P7/T56 because it makes nearly 2x the power and is a much easier fit.

Most proper V10 swaps into older mopars have the firewall cut back a couple inches, even the magnum force front end requires that.

Your truck motor is about 100lbs heavier then an equally dressed 5.9. So even if the thought of an install without a firewall mod with a radiator in front of the core support youd still have what you have now plus 2 50lbs bags of concrete on the front end.

If you have a nice car, skip it and never look back. If its a roadkill type shit box then that motor looks like a match made in heaven for a RK type car. A ragged out nearly 140k mile worked to hell iron block V10. And then after the long hard road of getting it in what do ya do when your 136k worked truck motor eats a bearing or cam or the well known head gasket/cracked head issue that your right in the prime mileage area for this.

Very true info on the front accessory setup. Also the truck V10 pan is semi deep pan and the tall box plenum could easily cause issues in that area as well.

Here are a couple pics for comparison.

 

[AMC Diplomat]

And then after the long hard road of getting it in what do ya do when your 136k worked truck motor eats a bearing or cam or the well known head gasket/cracked head issue that your right in the prime mileage area for this.

This was enough for me to say nope! Ain't doing it, you're right, it would suck to go through all that just for the engine to eat itself and be up a creek

 

[Duke5A]

It would certainly turn heads at shows, but there would be absolutely not a single ounce of practicality to it. Just big block it if you're going through all that trouble.

 

[Camtron]

As much as id like to say go for it I cant. Ive a good bit of real world test fitting a good V10, A gen 1 forged assembly line ready to drop in crate motor/ T56 combo. And the reason the parts still sit is because there are many many many X10 better combos. Just this past month I considered using it in a sedan build but am opting for the R5P7/T56 because it makes nearly 2x the power and is a much easier fit.

Most proper V10 swaps into older mopars have the firewall cut back a couple inches, even the magnum force front end requires that.

Your truck motor is about 100lbs heavier then an equally dressed 5.9. So even if the thought of an install without a firewall mod with a radiator in front of the core support youd still have what you have now plus 2 50lbs bags of concrete on the front end.

If you have a nice car, skip it and never look back. If its a roadkill type shit box then that motor looks like a match made in heaven for a RK type car. A ragged out nearly 140k mile worked to hell iron block V10. And then after the long hard road of getting it in what do ya do when your 136k worked truck motor eats a bearing or cam or the well known head gasket/cracked head issue that your right in the prime mileage area for this.

Very true info on the front accessory setup. Also the truck V10 pan is semi deep pan and the tall box plenum could easily cause issues in that area as well.

Here are a couple pics for comparison.

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…the few glimpses you give into your stock of items have been very impressive, sir.

 

[Camtron]

Alright don’t put it in your car…I think you need a 8 second go-kart, lol