LEWISEMATKINJR
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I use WAWA non-ethanol in all my vehicles--in my '06 Lincoln i constantly get 20.5 to 21 mph on the non ethanol, if i have to put in the gas with corn squeezings the car cant even break 19 mpg. yea for non ethanol gas.
And you know why?I use WAWA non-ethanol in all my vehicles--in my '06 Lincoln i constantly get 20.5 to 21 mph on the non ethanol, if i have to put in the gas with corn squeezings the car cant even break 19 mpg. yea for non ethanol gas.
You can crack it however you want: ethanol is shit. It was a gift to the farm lobby, nothing more, nothing less.
Wow, vs a angry under informed rant on US farmers are you aware that ethanol use is vast as in world wide and why its used? It is the norm around the world in modern societies.
Ethanol fuel by country - Wikipedia
It does not seem to make you happy it does work or at least does not cause a lot of harm for some by your reply, you seem very pissed off that it does not impact all who use it as much as others. Please look at the link I posted. Although the USA does produce the most Ethanol in the world we use 4x the amount of oil/gasoline vs China and then it falls off drastically from that point on with other countries use.
The origins and history of Ethanol is easy to find and dates far back.
Ethanol use as fuel dates back to Henry Ford, who in 1896 designed his first car, the "Quadricycle" to run on pure ethanol.[21] Then in 1908, he produced the famous Ford Model T capable of running on gasoline, ethanol or a combination of both.[21][35] Ford continued to advocate for ethanol as fuel even during Prohibition.
Do you know why gas producers actually use it and its not what most think. If the Gov. removed the mandate to use it gas producers would still use it because ethanol is the cheapest way to raise the octane level vs further costly refinement and thats the bottom line, the cost to produce a gallon of gasoline.
Do I like ethanol, no I do not for various reasons but to claim this is a USA only issue and to place it on the backs of farmers is very narrow sighted in the global picture of ethanol use.
Modern vehicles are throw away items, small gas powered products are being phased out so unfortunately us car guys in the end see more of it long term then other groups.
Anything gov. related is complex and many think the RFS is the big issue but this here is baffling. We export nearly 800 million gallons of corn based ethanol, approx 40% goes to Canada, now this is corn based but corn based ethanol can not meet Californias Low Carbon Fuel Standard so we import approx 80 million gallons of sugar based ethanol from Brazil to meet Cali-s needs.
Not every farmer gets gov. money the current number is less then 40% so again to lay a blanket statement on "farmers" is off base not to mention the overall global use of eth. that has nothing to do with many farmers.
There is many things about farming and ranching most just do not know. For instance a rancher made more money per head of cattle in 1970 then in 2021, even with covid and the huge spike in meat prices ranchers received not a penny more. The huge increase in costs is from the four major meat processors in the country. JBS being the biggest and global reported near a 900 million dollar profit in 2020 before the pandimic.
Im sorry you have so many issues related to ethanol but dang, no real need to unload on people or a generalized group, it is what it is. There are far more pressing issues before us in the world currently.