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We got a bumper crop of late 90s 318/360 here in Arkansas. The best ones are in the old church vans.
They only get driven on Sundays by the little old ladies that run the Sunday school routes.
 

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Even here, they can be found but many have already had the engines rebuilt. These engines are pretty old. They are worth looking for, but it can take you a while.
 

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while i am here, after the swap, what do you do with the oil dipstick? just fill to level then cut the dipstick?
 

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Today 1/6/25, in MN, I saw a 5.9 Magnum used short block in Wyoming MN $125 and a complete (Minus intake) running when pulled, 5.2 Magnum supposedly 130,000, looks nice, for $100 in Amery WI on the Facebook Marketplace.
I haven't seen a slant six for under $250 in my neighborhood for a year or two.
 
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I think the 225,is starting to pick up in popularity in the aftermarket.
it would be cool if dodge brought it back.
the new charger/challenger has a 4-5 hundred horse inline 6, used in minivans for years, turned rearward w/twin turbo's and now all wheel drive.
I believe they are hoping the 6 will help move people to the faster powered electric.
 

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I think the 225,is starting to pick up in popularity in the aftermarket.
it would be cool if dodge brought it back.
the new charger/challenger has a 4-5 hundred horse inline 6, used in minivans for years, turned rearward w/twin turbo's and now all wheel drive.
I believe they are hoping the 6 will help move people to the faster powered electric.
I see the prices going up on slant 6s too.
Older, rougher looking slant sixes are costing more than newer, nicer looking Magnum 5.2s and some 5.9s in my neighborhood (MN).
All of these /6 engines seem to sit though, maybe everybody is asking too much?
Maybe they are dreaming.
The idea is that they are picking up with hot rodders because they look cool, and initially because they were a cheaper option. I think these online blogs and hobbyist groups drive prices up too, along with increasing scarcity.
I had ideas of building a turbo slant.
Definitely cool, I wanted one, I get it.
All I really want though, is to be kinda quick, and burn some tires, this car is for fun. I want it to be faster.
I'm a beginner with engines and I am not rich.
I've scrapped the slant 6 turbo idea and I think a 5.9 magnum with some EQ heads, a custom grind cam, a chinese polished aluminum intake and a LA 360 car oil pan is probably in my future. (thank you MagnumSwap site, just google it if you don't know)
Magnum 5.9 is the cheapest and easiest way to 300+ HP.
It'll be more than enough fun for me.
It'll get better resale out of the car too, not that I'll ever sell this car.
Hell, I'll sell my painted, running slant six single barrel (my current engine) after its pulled, it'll probably pay for my new engine, but not the new heads. It'll at least be a good rebate. Better than Menards.
The enthusiasts can have the slant six. I can't afford to be an enthusiast.
I perseverated for years about this, but I've decided.
I'll get my engine next fall for rebuild next winter.
 

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I see the prices going up on slant 6s too.
Older, rougher looking slant sixes are costing more than newer, nicer looking Magnum 5.2s and some 5.9s in my neighborhood (MN).
All of these /6 engines seem to sit though, maybe everybody is asking too much?
Maybe they are dreaming.
The idea is that they are picking up with hot rodders because they look cool, and initially because they were a cheaper option. I think these online blogs and hobbyist groups drive prices up too, along with increasing scarcity.
I had ideas of building a turbo slant.
Definitely cool, I wanted one, I get it.
All I really want though, is to be kinda quick, and burn some tires, this car is for fun. I want it to be faster.
I'm a beginner with engines and I am not rich.
I've scrapped the slant 6 turbo idea and I think a 5.9 magnum with some EQ heads, a custom grind cam, a chinese polished aluminum intake and a LA 360 car oil pan is probably in my future. (thank you MagnumSwap site, just google it if you don't know)
Magnum 5.9 is the cheapest and easiest way to 300+ HP.
It'll be more than enough fun for me.
It'll get better resale out of the car too, not that I'll ever sell this car.
Hell, I'll sell my painted, running slant six single barrel (my current engine) after its pulled, it'll probably pay for my new engine, but not the new heads. It'll at least be a good rebate. Better than Menards.
The enthusiasts can have the slant six. I can't afford to be an enthusiast.
I perseverated for years about this, but I've decided.
I'll get my engine next fall for rebuild next winter.
I was looking for a V/8- magnum swap also. for me it came down to: availability, parts, and shop costs. that pushed me to look for a less expensive alternative ,for under 800 bucks new 4 BL intake, holley carb, HY-pro distributer and hot coil, re-gapped the plugs to 5.5.
not meaning to detract from the purpose of the thread. just wanted to raise a flag to acknowledge that there seems to be more power adders being made available in the US, through the after market for the slant 6 in recent years. and with dodge now building a built 4-500 HP RWD 3.0 inline 6 for the charger/challenger in 2025. there may be more on the horizon.
 

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I see the prices going up on slant 6s too.
Older, rougher looking slant sixes are costing more than newer, nicer looking Magnum 5.2s and some 5.9s in my neighborhood (MN).
All of these /6 engines seem to sit though, maybe everybody is asking too much?
Maybe they are dreaming.
The idea is that they are picking up with hot rodders because they look cool, and initially because they were a cheaper option. I think these online blogs and hobbyist groups drive prices up too, along with increasing scarcity.
I had ideas of building a turbo slant.
Definitely cool, I wanted one, I get it.
All I really want though, is to be kinda quick, and burn some tires, this car is for fun. I want it to be faster.
I'm a beginner with engines and I am not rich.
I've scrapped the slant 6 turbo idea and I think a 5.9 magnum with some EQ heads, a custom grind cam, a chinese polished aluminum intake and a LA 360 car oil pan is probably in my future. (thank you MagnumSwap site, just google it if you don't know)
Magnum 5.9 is the cheapest and easiest way to 300+ HP.
It'll be more than enough fun for me.
It'll get better resale out of the car too, not that I'll ever sell this car.
Hell, I'll sell my painted, running slant six single barrel (my current engine) after its pulled, it'll probably pay for my new engine, but not the new heads. It'll at least be a good rebate. Better than Menards.
The enthusiasts can have the slant six. I can't afford to be an enthusiast.
I perseverated for years about this, but I've decided.
I'll get my engine next fall for rebuild next winter.

I think the results of a stock 318 or 360 Magnum and 3.55 gear in your car will come as a big surprise to you. No Need for mods/building.
Just saying..............
 

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I think the results of a stock 318 or 360 Magnum and 3.55 gear in your car will come as a big surprise to you. No Need for mods/building.
Just saying..............
I'm well aware, I own cars with V-8's(chevy 350's, ford 302) also owned a 76 Volare wagon 318, 73 charger 318 and a 66 furyIII with the wide block 318.
with mine being a slant 6 platform, plenty of mods will be needed to make a V8 work.. radiator, K member, mounts, pan swap, new trans, exaust system ect..
VRS intake, carb and ignition package with a retune. which should deliver more power than the stock carbureted 318 for 79. for less cost.
I have the parts.. just need to pay the wrench. for assembly.
 
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I'm well aware, I own cars with V-8's(chevy 350's, ford 302) also owned a 76 Volare wagon 318, 73 charger 318 and a 66 furyIII with the wide block 318.
with mine being a slant 6 platform, plenty of mods will be needed to make a V8 work.. radiator, K member, mounts, pan swap, new trans, exaust system ect..
VRS intake, carb and ignition package with a retune. which should deliver more power than the stock carbureted 318 for 79. for less cost.
I have the parts.. just need to pay the wrench. for assembly.
Schumacher/6 to v8 mounts; done. Will put your v8 on your /6 k-frame exactly where it’s supposed to be.
 

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Schumacher/6 to v8 mounts; done. Will put your v8 on your /6 k-frame exactly where it’s supposed to be.
thanks, I asked about them on another thread, no one replied that they had tried them. how ever, that still wont solve the rest of the parts listed . that will still need swapped out. and the power to weight ratio gains for the budget conscious. if it's just the power boost. building the 6 is the better price option. if it's the size and sound of an 8, there is no substituting that.
 

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thanks, I asked about them on another thread, no one replied that they had tried them. how ever, that still wont solve the rest of the parts listed . that will still need swapped out. and the power to weight ratio gains for the budget conscious. if it's just the power boost. building the 6 is the better price option. if it's the size and sound of an 8, there is no substituting that.
I'll probably use Schumacher mounts.
I haven't done this before but many people have.
The Schumacher mounts are available again, they were not available for a couple years. I think a different company bought the tools and name and is now selling off the old Schumacher site but don't quote me.
I'll probably buy a pair again soon just to have on the shelf, before they are out of production again.
 

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I think the results of a stock 318 or 360 Magnum and 3.55 gear in your car will come as a big surprise to you. No Need for mods/building.
Just saying..............
I think so too.
I have fun with my current slant six which is probably making less than 100hp, maybe less than 80?
I've thought that when I'm ready I might buy a cheap 318 magnum running and install that, then get a 360 core and have fun building it to make more. I think they use the same Schumacher mounts. If not, I'll scrap the 318 step.

I'm doing my rear end right now. Put 2.76 gears in my 8.75 limited slip. I would like to do 80 down the freeway with my 904 and burn the tires from a stop. I don't care so much about a second this way or that. Maybe 3.55 would be better. IDK
I'm thinking about plumbing the rear brake line through the dash with a ball valve so I can block the rear brakes on and off from the driver's seat without a custom racing kit. That'd be cool.
 

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I think so too.
I have fun with my current slant six which is probably making less than 100hp, maybe less than 80?
I've thought that when I'm ready I might buy a cheap 318 magnum running and install that, then get a 360 core and have fun building it to make more. I think they use the same Schumacher mounts. If not, I'll scrap the 318 step.

I'm doing my rear end right now. Put 2.76 gears in my 8.75 limited slip. I would like to do 80 down the freeway with my 904 and burn the tires from a stop. I don't care so much about a second this way or that. Maybe 3.55 would be better. IDK
I'm thinking about plumbing the rear brake line through the dash with a ball valve so I can block the rear brakes on and off from the driver's seat without a custom racing kit. That'd be cool
cruising at 80 and smoking the tires shouldn't be a problem. I do 95 and buried the needle at over 100 with my wagon with no issues. my super 6 has a holley 2 BL at about 110HP.
 

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cruising at 80 and smoking the tires shouldn't be a problem. I do 95 and buried the needle at over 100 with my wagon with no issues. my super 6 has a holley 2 BL at about 110HP.
sounds like a cool ride
 

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sounds like a cool ride
it's my Icon to my left. I expect to at least double that output with my duster, w/ the simple upgrades I mentioned. I may at some point upgrade my exhaust as well.
dont get me wrong, , if I had the money and the skills.. I would give it the 360 it deserves. but since I dont, this is my next best option.
and it gets me to the stock output of the 8 with less weight..
 
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