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Kramer79
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That is awesome- great price!
Its got a 4-bbl. A chance it might even be a 360 - but if a California car, it will just be a (low performance) 318 4-bbl. A lot of Arizona and Nevada cars got the California emission packages.
A little too far for me, or I'd be interested in it.
BudW
A little too far for me, or I'd be interested in it.
BudW
According to the parts book, the heads, cam and possibly the intake from a 318-4V are the same as the E58 360-4V.
Kramer79
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I wonder if the trailer is included
I made some screen prints from my '79 and '84 part manuals.
1979
E44 (ELA) – 318 2-bbl
E45 (ELD) – 318 2-bbl HD (ie: Taxi or Police). These have roller timing chains and better bearings in the torque converter, but otherwise the same as E44.
E46 (ELC) – 318 4-bbl (low performance)
E47 – 318 4-bbl HD (see above, also low performance)
E53 – I've never seen one. I suspect this might be the Imperial FI for testing (maybe).
E56 - 360 4-bbl (low performance)
E57 – 360 2-bbl
E58 – 360 4-bbl High Performance
Every 318 cylinder head I have ever seen has small intake ports – with one exception (the police 318) which uses the 360 cylinder head. Now with that said, the intake manifolds are a different story (see below).
1984
ELA (E44) – 318 2-bbl
ELD (E45) – 318 2-bbl HD (ie: Taxi or Police). Again, these have roller timing chains and better bearings in the torque converter, but otherwise the same as ELA.
ELC (E46) – 318 4-bbl (low performance)
ELE – 318 4-bbl HD (see above, but this one engine is significantly different. The only parts also used on other 318's is the block and covers/pans).
The cylinder head part number for both year 318's are the same, except for the 318 4-bbl police.
The intake manifolds are the same (2 bbl vs 4 bbl) but part numbers don't reflect that. For both examples, the 4-bbl intake is the large port (360) intake. What is not shown or mentioned is the port size mismatch from large port 4-bbl intake to small port cylinder head when used on non-police engines.
Note: I thought the camshafts were different - but I was wrong (but not really looked into it before).
Chrysler did make small port 4-bbl intakes – but not a lot of them. The two years I used for examples ('79 & '84), all 4-bbl intakes, if used on 318 or 360, are the same part, but the cylinder heads NOT.
The only 318 cylinder heads, that I have ever seen (and I've seen thousands of 'em) use small intake ports – with the only exception is the police 318 4-bbl. Those engines also use radically different pistons because of the 360 head combustion chambers are made a lot differently (ie: the piston tops are closer to head gasket when at TDC.
BudW
1979
E44 (ELA) – 318 2-bbl
E45 (ELD) – 318 2-bbl HD (ie: Taxi or Police). These have roller timing chains and better bearings in the torque converter, but otherwise the same as E44.
E46 (ELC) – 318 4-bbl (low performance)
E47 – 318 4-bbl HD (see above, also low performance)
E53 – I've never seen one. I suspect this might be the Imperial FI for testing (maybe).
E56 - 360 4-bbl (low performance)
E57 – 360 2-bbl
E58 – 360 4-bbl High Performance
Every 318 cylinder head I have ever seen has small intake ports – with one exception (the police 318) which uses the 360 cylinder head. Now with that said, the intake manifolds are a different story (see below).
1984
ELA (E44) – 318 2-bbl
ELD (E45) – 318 2-bbl HD (ie: Taxi or Police). Again, these have roller timing chains and better bearings in the torque converter, but otherwise the same as ELA.
ELC (E46) – 318 4-bbl (low performance)
ELE – 318 4-bbl HD (see above, but this one engine is significantly different. The only parts also used on other 318's is the block and covers/pans).
The cylinder head part number for both year 318's are the same, except for the 318 4-bbl police.
The intake manifolds are the same (2 bbl vs 4 bbl) but part numbers don't reflect that. For both examples, the 4-bbl intake is the large port (360) intake. What is not shown or mentioned is the port size mismatch from large port 4-bbl intake to small port cylinder head when used on non-police engines.
Note: I thought the camshafts were different - but I was wrong (but not really looked into it before).
Chrysler did make small port 4-bbl intakes – but not a lot of them. The two years I used for examples ('79 & '84), all 4-bbl intakes, if used on 318 or 360, are the same part, but the cylinder heads NOT.
The only 318 cylinder heads, that I have ever seen (and I've seen thousands of 'em) use small intake ports – with the only exception is the police 318 4-bbl. Those engines also use radically different pistons because of the 360 head combustion chambers are made a lot differently (ie: the piston tops are closer to head gasket when at TDC.
The camshaft and intakes I can agree with. The cylinder heads, are not (large port vs. small port).
BudW
SlantSixSullivan
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LOL
SlantSixSullivan
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If he was close enough, I could probably get it for free. He mentions he'd trade for 2A (I'm assuming gravel) which I get from work at no cost.
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My concern is what I marked, above. This may or might not be a concern depending on what state (or country) it is going to.
If it was closer, I'd be on it.
BudW
My concern is what I marked, above. This may or might not be a concern depending on what state (or country) it is going to.
If it was closer, I'd be on it.
BudW
SlantSixSullivan
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Not joking. But I didn't think of 2and amendment stuff. I forgot craigslist doesn't like the word "gun" lol
I live in AZ, if I can get free Sunday I will run up there and take a look. I had never seen a dippy wagon before. The title issue can be a pita depending on if the guy is cool or not and if he took care of his Dad's estate correctly. Otherwise it is a parts car.
Some states, it is easy to get a duplicate title.
Other states, the opposite is true (if not impossible).
The big part is if there was anything against the title (lien or title branding). If not, and if you have a bill of sale, it might be smooth sailing (again, state/country depending).
If car was a ~2 hour drive from me, I would chance the title (I think it is doable, in Oklahoma). My problem is with this car is it would be a 28 hour round trip for me.
I would like to look at the VIN or the fender tag. I suspect this car might have a 360 4-bbl (non HP) in it and if so, might be one of the last (non-police) cars made with one.
BudW
Other states, the opposite is true (if not impossible).
The big part is if there was anything against the title (lien or title branding). If not, and if you have a bill of sale, it might be smooth sailing (again, state/country depending).
If car was a ~2 hour drive from me, I would chance the title (I think it is doable, in Oklahoma). My problem is with this car is it would be a 28 hour round trip for me.
I would like to look at the VIN or the fender tag. I suspect this car might have a 360 4-bbl (non HP) in it and if so, might be one of the last (non-police) cars made with one.
BudW
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