FOR SALE Complete running super six motor and trans.

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I have a running Super Six motor from a 1980 Volare available. Unsure of the miles but it does run. I drove the car on the trailer with it but couldn't drive it further due to lack of brakes on the car. This will need to be picked up. I'm open to offers on this. I just hate to see it go to a junkyard. I can post pics and a video link this weekend for anyone interested.
 

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What type of transmission?

Posted Pictures would help the sale.
 

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I'm really not sure what the trans is other than auto. It has the floorboard for a manual trans so I think at some point it was changed. I will try to get the model of the trans tomorrow and list it. Pics and video will follow tomorrow.
 

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It is highly unlikely it will have a 727 in it – but there is a chance.

904.jpg

904/998/999 (basically the same thing – just call it a 904 for simplicity sake)


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727
The bump (or difference between gaskets) is on the R/F corner of pan.

Both pictures would be, as if you were on your back on a creeper, rolling from the front of car rearwards.
In other words, the bottom of the above pictures is towards the front of car and right side of picture is to the right side of car.


If you wanted more details, there is a pad on right side of transmission bellhousing that has a TIN (Transmission Serial Number) stamped on it. It would be easier to read this number once transmission is out of car.

On the transmission pan gasket right side rail, there is a machined spot on side of that pan rail that will have the last 8 (or 9) digits of the car VIN (Vehicle Serial Number) stamped on it, as well.

The VIN only matters to the police or if you are trying to make a numbers matching car.
The TIN number tells you everything you want to know about the transmission, itself.
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Ed, as far as I know, the 80 F's weren't available with the SuperSix. Could it be a replaced engine or two barrel carb and manifold added?
 

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I was not aware that Super Sixes where N/A on F's. There was very few ever sold around here. It must have been an expensive upgrade.
 

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I was not aware that Super Sixes where N/A on F's. There was very few ever sold around here. It must have been an expensive upgrade.
Super Sixes were available on F's from '77 through '79. They were standard on the wagons. As far as I know, they were not available in '76, and for some weird reason, on the '80's, when they went back to the standard one barrel carb.
 

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I think you could still get the super six option in canada in 1980
 

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This one is a one barrel version. I'll look at the fender tag and see what I can find out. what are the codes for motors?
 

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The trans is a 904. I'm checking the fender tag to see if this was the original motor or not.



It is highly unlikely it will have a 727 in it – but there is a chance.

View attachment 27242
904/998/999 (basically the same thing – just call it a 904 for simplicity sake)


View attachment 27243
727
The bump (or difference between gaskets) is on the R/F corner of pan.

Both pictures would be, as if you were on your back on a creeper, rolling from the front of car rearwards.
In other words, the bottom of the above pictures is towards the front of car and right side of picture is to the right side of car.


If you wanted more details, there is a pad on right side of transmission bellhousing that has a TIN (Transmission Serial Number) stamped on it. It would be easier to read this number once transmission is out of car.

On the transmission pan gasket right side rail, there is a machined spot on side of that pan rail that will have the last 8 (or 9) digits of the car VIN (Vehicle Serial Number) stamped on it, as well.

The VIN only matters to the police or if you are trying to make a numbers matching car.
The TIN number tells you everything you want to know about the transmission, itself.
BudW
 

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The fender tag shows E24 for the motor which would be a 225 1bb 6 cyl. I'm not sure if this is the Super 6 motor or not. Can someone let me know on this please? I have found that this was originally a manual car with the 904 being added later. They even went to the trouble of changing the steering column.
 

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I don’t have any FSM (Factory Service Manuals) or Part Manuals for ’80 or ’81 (the only two years I’m missing) – so cannot officially confirm or deny this.

On http://www.forfmjbodiesonly.com/classicmopar/threads/1980-dodge-aspen-dealer-sales-brochure.543/
80 Aspen Engines.JPG

Blown up in attempt to make it more readable.

2-bbl conversions are not hard to do – so an upgrade (or even engine replacement) is not hard to do and can easily could have been done in last 35+ years.

Applicable Fender Codes:
E20 225 Export
E24 225 1-bbl (’76-79)
E25 225 1-bbl Heavy Duty (ie: police or taxi) (’76-79)
E26 225 2-bbl (’76-78)
E27 225 2-bbl Heavy Duty (’76-79)

D13 3-Speed Floor Shifted Manual Transmission
D14 3-Speed Column Shifted Manual Transmission
D15 3-Speed Column Shifted Manual Transmission – HD
D21 4-Speed Manual Transmission (’76)
D24 4-Speed Manual Transmission w/Overdrive
D31 A904 Automatic Transmission
D32 A998 Automatic Transmission
D33 A999 Automatic Transmission
D35 A727 Automatic Transmission HD
D36 A727 A904 Automatic Transmission
D38 A904 Automatic Transmission HD
Note: the date span on fender codes are not 100% accurate.
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I'm not sure if this is the Super 6 motor or not.
The 1-bbl and 2-bbl air cleaner lid (I believe) is the same – but carburetor hole on air cleaner base is different size.

If not sure which carburetor it has, take a picture of it (air cleaner removed) and post it – or open choke valve with finger and look inside of it with a flashlight.
Two venturi’s = 2-bbl (circle(s) that will be visible with choke plate open).

I have seen Super 6 air cleaner lids on 1-bbl engines, before.
I guess it is like chrome – it makes the car run faster, maybe?
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I'm not sure if this is the Super 6 motor or not.
Interesting little mystery. As far as I know, the "Super" in the "Super Six" referred to the two barrel carb. It produced something like ten extra horsepower or something like that. The air cleaner on the Super Six was larger than the one on the regular one barrel, which was just painted black with no blue lettered trim like on the Super Six. BUT, just because the engine is currently a "Super Six" with two barrel carb, doesn't necessarily mean it started out life that way. As Bud W noted above, it could easily have been changed over the years. Not that any of this really matters in this case, as both the standard slant six and the Super Six are excellent engines. I was always curious though as to why Chrysler decided to drop the Super Six during the last year of F production. Maybe to meet some emissions requirement or something like that perhaps?
 

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There are a lot of questions I have on these cars – which I doubt anyone will ever find answers to.

One question (out of hundreds I have) is, most /6’s came with cast iron intakes. A very few came with a two piece and welded together intake. Also a few came with single piece cast aluminum intakes. Then they went back to cast iron intakes for the last few years of usage. The aluminum ones weight almost nothing. 20+ years ago, it was hard to find an OEM aluminum intake - why?

The welded up 2-piece (top and bottom/sides piece) could have the weld cut off/ground off and taken apart pretty easily to become modified (porting, different top made or modified, etc.) and re-welded back up.

The list of questions I have, goes on and on.
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