AMC Diplomat
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Still has better paint than mine! Don't worry, it's entirely fixable.
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You’ll be solid in no time. The box I have here is a little too short but I’ll get my hands on one and get them out Monday.
mopar master
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Can someone guide me in the right direction for clips. I've found some on Amazon for the rams but from reading on here they won't work.
Yea, I think the Ram ones are 4” and ours are 5”+, but I may be remembering things backwards. Grab a measurement of yours when you have a second but, these should be the correct 5” ones.
Link: Aftermarket Lower Belt Rocker Body Sill Molding Trim Clip #381090 Chrysler Dodge | eBay
Link: Aftermarket Lower Belt Rocker Body Sill Molding Trim Clip #381090 Chrysler Dodge | eBay
AMC Diplomat
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I think you got it backwards, the clips for our cars are the short ones and are unobtainium Stainless Steel Sill (Rocker), Panels
Not sure, these say they’re for Gen 1 Rams but are 4”.
Link:Aftermarket DODGE D-Body Ram Exterior Molding Retainer Clip #6003519 | eBay
AMC Diplomat
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Those are about a half inch too short
Lmfao this like this is when you remember that the general public just doesn’t and never have gave a shit about our cars, lol yea, everything but 4 3/8” available
AMC Diplomat
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Let's face it, about 80% of the people who give a shit about M bodies are on this forum, the other 20% are too old hang out online or too young to use a forum.
It's also the reason I make low ball offers on ebay items. I mean, who else is gonna buy stuff, you guys? So it's a market of like, what, maybe two dozen people in the whole country?
Don't get me wrong though, I'm obsessed with my car and I wish more people appreciated these cars.
AMC Diplomat
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@Kyle340 did you ever sell the clips you had listed? This is the ad: FOR SALE - M body rocker molding clips I know that was a couple years ago, but I figure it's worth a shot to see if we can help this guy
now I can’t help but wonder where the molds are to make our clips, lol covered in dust sitting in storage in a factory long forgotten, scrapped and recycled to make space, sitting in some old timers storage from his time at the factory.
…Not that it would help for these clips but it does remind me, I found a guy named, Scooter down in, Kansas who makes some, Gen1 Ram parts and he’s open to make parts for us if we supplied him quality samples to work from. His parts look pretty damn beefy and the prices aren't terrible for the work/quality.
Links:
Scooters Custom Fabrication
Scooters Custom Fabrication | Pomona KS
…Not that it would help for these clips but it does remind me, I found a guy named, Scooter down in, Kansas who makes some, Gen1 Ram parts and he’s open to make parts for us if we supplied him quality samples to work from. His parts look pretty damn beefy and the prices aren't terrible for the work/quality.
Links:
Scooters Custom Fabrication
Scooters Custom Fabrication | Pomona KS
AMC Diplomat
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We need to send him the police rear shackles and hanger. Ain't nobody making those. I've got a set soaking in evaporust in the hopes that they'll turn out ok.
I'd be curious if he would make the 5 leaf ISO brackets, maybe with a little bit thicker material, reinforced U-bolt holes, and with some drain holes on the bottom. There was someone making them, I can't find the link, but they wanted like 250 each for nothing special if I remember. I can't remember if they were 4 or 5 leaf though.
I'd say send him the rear sway bar frame mounts too, but seeing a couple sets go stale in the for sale section tells me there's no demand.
I'd be curious if he would make the 5 leaf ISO brackets, maybe with a little bit thicker material, reinforced U-bolt holes, and with some drain holes on the bottom. There was someone making them, I can't find the link, but they wanted like 250 each for nothing special if I remember. I can't remember if they were 4 or 5 leaf though.
I'd say send him the rear sway bar frame mounts too, but seeing a couple sets go stale in the for sale section tells me there's no demand.
Firm Feel sells rear shackle kits for these cars. I'm using the same one.
B, C, E, F, M & J-Body HD Shackle Kit
As far as ISO goes, if I ever do another F/J/M car it's getting ditched for B body shock plates. I'll never mess with that shit again.
B, C, E, F, M & J-Body HD Shackle Kit
As far as ISO goes, if I ever do another F/J/M car it's getting ditched for B body shock plates. I'll never mess with that shit again.
AMC Diplomat
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I said no one makes police shackles.... everyone and their cousin makes a version of the regular ones, I got mine from espo
I know the ISO delete is a thing, but I'd love to talk with a Chrysler engineer to see why they developed the ISO in the first place. I've got a couple theories
What's the difference?
AMC Diplomat
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Can't tell if you're pulling my leg
Police shackle
Regular shackle
Police rear hanger
Regular rear hanger
Mikes5thAve
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The iso thing was sipposed to be to isolate the suspension for better ride. I don't know if drain holes would be good or not. They'd let water out but also let more in.
I don't know how much of a demand there really is for the police shackle and mount.
There must have been a reason for it to begin with but people have been putting the normal one through abuse for decades with no problems. It would be neat if it was available but theres probably an extremely limited market for it especially at those prices. I think originally it was if a car had the rear sway bar that dictated what mount it had but for M bodies only police had that.
I don't know how much of a demand there really is for the police shackle and mount.
There must have been a reason for it to begin with but people have been putting the normal one through abuse for decades with no problems. It would be neat if it was available but theres probably an extremely limited market for it especially at those prices. I think originally it was if a car had the rear sway bar that dictated what mount it had but for M bodies only police had that.
Think the ISO takes a massive amount of snap and bump out of the suspension and road feel inside the car. I think it may also have to do with lowering the rear end ride hight to prevent a lever action that can bottom out the suspension when hitting rolling bumps that, throw the rear up the car up and would allow it to crash down heavily otherwise.
Are the AHB shackles just cold bent factory shackles to improve geometry or are they also thicker? Could probably make a jig or buy one of those Machete benders to modify a standard sets.
Mikes5thAve
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I think they'd be a bit longer then normal shackle sides to make up for the bend but it's not that hard to cut a strip of metal and drill holes in it. I was thinking the same thing but that the bending would be the harder part.
Would make sense about the added length
