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Random, but specific, pictures of some ECUs with some text...

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These are my spares and some being re-worked for potting compound breakdown and oozing. These all work, both Chrysler and aftermarket. Some I bought new years ago, some NOS later, some are used original Chrysler, and others are new aftermarket. None are newer manufacture than the mid 90s, so none are the newer cheap, inferior offerings without proper internal components. Several brands are here: Chrysler, Chrysler Direct Connection, Wells, Sorensen, Filko, Kem, Big A, Echlin, Standard/Elextron, Auto-Tune, Atlas, and Motorola.

These two ECUs were removed from cars in a field. Both are originals that Chrysler installed in the cars. One in 1974, the other in 1976. They both still work but will be cleaned up and re-potted.
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These have had the potting removed.
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The "de-potted" ECUs have been re-painted and tested, but not re-potted yet. I don't attempt to make them look original, just somewhat decently so. I might replace a sticker.
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In addition to these, each of my 15 operating vehicles have Chrysler factory electronic ignition as installed, or added by me with other factory parts or Direct Connection/Mopar Performance kits. Each of those also carry a spare ECU in the trunk, although I've never had to use one on the road.

I can repair the ECU if needed depending on the fault, but removing the circuit board from the soldered connector pins and the main power transistor is a hassle. I've broken a capacitor in the potting removal and had to correct that. Actually, in 50+ years of working with Mopars, I've only seen a couple or so of real ECU failures on our own personal vehicles and maybe only two or three ballast resistor failures (all 4-pin). One single ballast resistor failure too, but that was an original resistor on a point system (1966 Belvedere 318 Poly in the late 80s). One ECU was the original that failed after 46 years. Almost none of the potting was left in it. Another was a Chrysler ECU with a "Mopar Remanufactured" sticker on it that came on my 1974 truck that I got in 1990. It failed about 10 years later. I have a Borg Warner ECU that is flaky. It works, but fires oddly, and triggers the coil without the engine running, but key on in "run". I've had two that were intermittent, one Direct Connection, and one Atlas. Replacements have mainly been due to potting issues, a "better" ECU, or a preferred different ECU. So, I have more spares than I likely will need, but if I see a good deal on a good NOS unit, I am tempted to grab it.

I can test an ECU or factory wiring with the factory tester. It's typically easier and more realistic though to just temporarily mount the ECU on a vehicle and start/run it for testing. For checking ECU wiring checking, I prefer a multimeter.
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I converted one of my failed ECUs into a wiring junction box for experimenting with a semi-hidden MSD-6A with a stock electronic distributor to appear factory and to allow me to convert back to a stock ECU without re-wiring if needed. I saw no real benefit with the MSD other than maybe tolerating wider plug gaps better, so I removed it for stock. I experimented similarly with a Jacobs Ignition setup which showed more benefit, but I later went back to stock on that one too.
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I'm doing similar rework on 1970+ voltage regulators and police air conditioning cutouts which can also suffer from potting breakdown and oozing.
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Chrysler used semi-solid potting compounds in the electronic control units (ECUs), electronic voltage regulators, air conditioning high speed cutout controllers, EGR timers, and other similar electronic modules. In some ECUs and voltage regulators, sand was added to the compound as an additional stiffener for mechanical shock and vibration resistance.

1970s assemblies are more susceptible to the oozing than later production parts. Later production was changed to a more rubber-like or silicone-like compound that breaks down less. In general, the parts can continue to function with the compound leaking out unless affected by moisture or other factors. Aftermarket components can also suffer from similar breakdown depending on the nature of their compound.

When the early compound used by Chrysler oozes it forms a sticky mess. It can be dissolved with lacquer thinner, but it's tricky to remove from painted surfaces without risking the paint. I've successfully removed it with lacquer thinner from vehicles as well as ECUs and voltage regulators, including the internal areas. Removal from the internal areas does risk removing electronic component markings and weakening the components, especially the electrolytic capacitors. I have replaced the removed potting compound with two part (A-B) silicone or urethane compounds.
 
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3-1/2" tall "127" filter. Taller version of the common filter, Fram # CA305, among others. The K-mart filters have the old coloring and metal mesh.

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Crazy Rays in Mount Airy, Maryland. got as much good stuff as i could. i wanted the front clip but didn't have the right tools. i also found out i have no idea how to take the seats out of these. if anyone of yall need fenders, bumpers, doors. this car was pretty straight. the trunk was dead though. i don't plan to head back for it. someone had already got the wipers, rocker panel trim, and the wheel cover trims before me. then bent the damn hood ornament. has a nice dash pad and a power antenna but the passenger door is jammed

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Crazy Rays in Mount Airy, Maryland. got as much good stuff as i could. i wanted the front clip but didn't have the right tools. i also found out i have no idea how to take the seats out of these. if anyone of yall need fenders, bumpers, doors. this car was pretty straight. the trunk was dead though. i don't plan to head back for it. someone had already got the wipers, rocker panel trim, and the wheel cover trims before me. then bent the damn hood ornament. has a nice dash pad and a power antenna but the passenger door is jammed

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Seats come out from underneath the car. They're bolted through the floor pan with the heads of the bolts underneath
 

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Seats come out from underneath the car. They're bolted through the floor pan with the heads of the bolts underneath
thanks. i was looking at the circle thing like "wtf is that?" what size bolt? and both front and rear seats come out like this?
 

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thanks. i was looking at the circle thing like "wtf is that?" what size bolt? and both front and rear seats come out like this?
I forget off the top of my head what size that is. The back of the rear seat is bolted in at the bottom and hooked in on top. The bottom of the seat is just hooked in, if I remember correctly. Most seat bottoms on rear seats in rear wheel drive cars are just hooked in.

The passenger side front is the hardest to get out because of the catalytic converter
 

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I forget off the top of my head what size that is. The back of the rear seat is bolted in at the bottom and hooked in on top. The bottom of the seat is just hooked in, if I remember correctly. Most seat bottoms on rear seats in rear wheel drive cars are just hooked in.

The passenger side front is the hardest to get out because of the catalytic converter
ugh. thanks for the info. i want the seats out of a Fifth Avenue to replace my bench seat. ideally in red. i remember my father replaced the seats in his 83 Diplomat. i don't remember him climbing under the car to do it but then again this was 20 years ago and i was very little
 

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ugh. thanks for the info. i want the seats out of a Fifth Avenue to replace my bench seat. ideally in red. i remember my father replaced the seats in his 83 Diplomat. i don't remember him climbing under the car to do it but then again this was 20 years ago and i was very little

To get the 60/40 seats out they have to go all the way forward on the tracks and remove four nuts from under the floor pan. Getting the seats themselves out is a bit of a game of Jinga.

If you want buckets it is possible to graft a passenger 40 seat onto the driver's tracks. I did this many moons ago.
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Turns out, AI has burnouts too; and they just wanna chill and not harsh your vibe, lmfao
 

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To get the 60/40 seats out they have to go all the way forward on the tracks and remove four nuts from under the floor pan. Getting the seats themselves out is a bit of a game of Jinga.

If you want buckets it is possible to graft a passenger 40 seat onto the driver's tracks. I did this many moons ago.
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i just want some red seats that recline. looking at a worn Fifth in Virginia to take it's seats
 

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i just want some red seats that recline. looking at a worn Fifth in Virginia to take it's seats

I got stupid lucky with that score. The carpet in the photo came from the same donor car the passenger seat came from. The interior was immaculate. It was from an '88 and I used almost everything from it to replace the shag interior my '87 had. My carpet was roached and I hate shag.
 

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Ever snap a Tap go, damn, we got ourselves a situation here now…
Take a deep breath, Sacrifice a socket.

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