Am I missing something?

Interior and Electrical

  1. 7071 chally

    7071 chally Member

    Messages:
    7
    Likes Received:
    0
    Joined:
    Mar 30, 2019
    Location:
    St-Isidore, QC, Canada
    Hi. have a 1987 Chrysler Fifth Avenue and noticed and opening below the glove compartment. I have seen a couple of Fitfh Avenue and they all seems to have this opening, no block-off plate or light or anything. Somebody knows? Pics? Thanks...

    Fifth Avenue 87-10.jpg
     
  2. volare 77

    volare 77 Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    1,038
    Likes Received:
    120
    Joined:
    Jun 12, 2014
    Location:
    maryland
    It depended on the options that was ordered on the car. Some came with a map light/courtesy lamp some don`t. Also some cars had the harness to plug directly to the light and some you need to find a small harness for the light off another car or a NOS one.
     
    Last edited: Jul 1, 2019
  3. volare 77

    volare 77 Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    1,038
    Likes Received:
    120
    Joined:
    Jun 12, 2014
    Location:
    maryland
    It would look something like this. This is for a f body. I`m pretty sure if the 5th ave one is different without looking up the parts numbers to compare. Some of the later years came with the harness connected to the lamp.
    NOS Mopar 1976-78 F-Body Map Light Assembly | eBay
     
    Last edited: Jul 1, 2019
  4. 7071 chally

    7071 chally Member

    Messages:
    7
    Likes Received:
    0
    Joined:
    Mar 30, 2019
    Location:
    St-Isidore, QC, Canada
    Ok, thanks, but it is a bit weird it doen't have a plate or something to block the hole if you don't have the option. Besides, a Fifth Avenue comes with the light group, (truck light, glove box light, ash tray light, courtesy light, ect...), so why does this light is missing? I would think it should be part of the light group?
     
  5. Duke5A

    Duke5A Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    457
    Likes Received:
    141
    Joined:
    Apr 6, 2018
    Location:
    Michigan
    I think the option was discontinued somewhere down the line. I pulled one from a junkyard car and wired it into my 87.
     
  6. Ele115

    Ele115 Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    111
    Likes Received:
    29
    Joined:
    Apr 24, 2019
    Location:
    Tampa FL
    That's for the courtesy light. My 78 Le Baron has it. None of my diplomats do. I suppose the UAW would have screamed bloody murder back in 1978 if you had forced them to put a small blank plate and two screws into that cavity.
     
  7. 7071 chally

    7071 chally Member

    Messages:
    7
    Likes Received:
    0
    Joined:
    Mar 30, 2019
    Location:
    St-Isidore, QC, Canada
    Duke5A and Ele115, do you have any pics?
     
  8. XfbodyX

    XfbodyX Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    506
    Likes Received:
    98
    Joined:
    Sep 9, 2015
    You need the longer one in these pics, both nos dusty but you get the idea. Shorter one is F

    DSC00056.JPG

    DSC00059.JPG
     
  9. old yellow 78

    old yellow 78 Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    1,043
    Likes Received:
    302
    Joined:
    Aug 28, 2015
    Location:
    near Allentown, PA
    I have that same hole with no cover in OY. All of my other F's without the light package also only had the hole. I've never seen one covered. I'm hoping that the wiring is back in the dash somewhere so I can install one I picked up a while back.
     
  10. Aspen500

    Aspen500 Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    4,017
    Likes Received:
    1138
    Joined:
    Feb 14, 2015
    Location:
    Rib Mountain (Wausau) WI
    No cover is most likely a bean counter thing, would be my guess. You know, save 4 cents per vehicle?
     
  11. XfbodyX

    XfbodyX Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    506
    Likes Received:
    98
    Joined:
    Sep 9, 2015
    It should be part of your harness under the dash that also has the glove box light, the yellow to cowl ground and the cigg lighter and the cig lighter light, if I remember correctly.

    Ive a used lil harness if yours dont have it.

    DSC00060.JPG

    DSC00061 (2).JPG
     
    Ele115 likes this.
  12. old yellow 78

    old yellow 78 Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    1,043
    Likes Received:
    302
    Joined:
    Aug 28, 2015
    Location:
    near Allentown, PA
    OY doesn't have ANY of the light package items unfortunately. So, no glove box light, cig light, or ignition light either. I do want to install the fender mounted turn signal lights, and some cars have the lead for them to just plug into, but OY doesn't for some reason. I gotta get under the dash one of these days and find the wiring (hopefully) for the Chronometer, courtesy light, etc. I also have the amber reverse light that mounts on the lower half of the dash under the glove box door that they used on the pre-'78 F's with floor mount shift. I need to figure out how to hook that up too (even though it's not "correct" for a '78 model, I don't care, I just like it).
     
  13. 7071 chally

    7071 chally Member

    Messages:
    7
    Likes Received:
    0
    Joined:
    Mar 30, 2019
    Location:
    St-Isidore, QC, Canada
    Wow, thanks for the great info guys! And thanks for the pics XFbodyX
     
  14. volare 77

    volare 77 Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    1,038
    Likes Received:
    120
    Joined:
    Jun 12, 2014
    Location:
    maryland
    I agree with Duke, I think they were discontinued at some point in time. I tried to look one up for 1985 and it didn`t show a listing.
     
  15. Ele115

    Ele115 Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    111
    Likes Received:
    29
    Joined:
    Apr 24, 2019
    Location:
    Tampa FL
    I wouldn't be surprised if the wiring is tied up there and they were a dealer upsell. An easy $75-100 Some of the fleet Diplomats I've seen had a big bundle of wiring coming through that opening for customer equipment. My 88 Did
     
  16. MoparDan

    MoparDan Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    156
    Likes Received:
    16
    Joined:
    Mar 17, 2011
    Location:
    Daytona Beach, FL
    I think they got rid of that light around 1980 or so, I used to have an '82 Fifth Avenue and it didn't have the map light and it had the glovebox light, the power trunk release, and the glovebox clock. I found a light on eBay and quickly found out that there was no plug for it, so I just wired it to the glovebox light and it worked fine. Afew years ago I installed one in my '85 Gran Fury that I found in an '80s Ram Charger, the Fury doesn't have the trunk release or glove box light, and for some reason the wiring harness has the plug for the glovebox light but not the trunk release, and one again no plug for the map light
     
  17. volare 77

    volare 77 Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    1,038
    Likes Received:
    120
    Joined:
    Jun 12, 2014
    Location:
    maryland
    My 77 never had the wiring either and i had the whole dash apart.
     
  18. DCAspen

    DCAspen Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    989
    Likes Received:
    198
    Joined:
    Sep 27, 2011
    Location:
    ct.
    Wiring harness for map,ash tray,glove box lights for F-Body are a seperate harness,not included on the standard underdash unit.
     
  19. XfbodyX

    XfbodyX Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    506
    Likes Received:
    98
    Joined:
    Sep 9, 2015
    But the main harness does have the 4 wire male plug for it, about 8-10 inches to the right of the fan speed plug. At least the ones ive got. Or is it like some of the engine wire harnesses that do or dont have the fender turn indicator plugs?

    The added harness is 3843611 on the f and there is even another wire with a pn (3843XXX) that plugs into the orange lead and splits into to, maybe the dome light or, its a long lead.
     
    Last edited: Jul 15, 2019 at 7:08 AM
  20. Aspen500

    Aspen500 Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    4,017
    Likes Received:
    1138
    Joined:
    Feb 14, 2015
    Location:
    Rib Mountain (Wausau) WI
    Maybe goes to where the trunk light plugs in near the rear of the left wheel well? Or not.