GregG48213
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My usual procedure is to break the lug nuts loose first, and then jack up the vehicle (unless you're down in a rut or don't have clearance to spin the lug wrench). The wheel is less likely to turn when it's loaded.
Fuel Filter at 2:32 am
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Aspen500
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One of my pet peeves is people over torquing lug nuts, which in the case of your truck (assuming it's the '00 2500) is 140-160 ft lbs. It's OK to use an impact IF it's used with the correct value torque stick socket. Those things are as accurate as any torque wrench. Impact with a regular socket is a big no-no!
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kkritsilas
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Those torque sticks are no where near as accurate as a good torque wrench. This assumes that the torque wrench is in calibration. which should be done every 2-4 years. There is no way to verify that a torque stick is accurate, and no way to calibrate it out, either. A calibrated torque wrench is normally accurate to within 4%; a digital torque wrench to within 2%. What is the accuracy specification of a torque stick? (Not being a smart ass, I really don't know, but would like to).
On my 1993 Lincoln Mark VIII, the torque spec was 80-100 ft. lbs. Mechanic asked me the torque spec, and I told him. He used a yellow coloured torque stick, out of a selection of 6-8 torque sticks of various colours. Since I don't trust anybody who uses an impact to tighten lug nuts, with or without a torque stick, as soon as I got the car home, I got each wheel up with the car's jack, and loosened the lug nuts. Took a 24" 1/2" breaker bar, with me practically standing on the bar (I weighed 210lbs. at the time) to get them loose. No way were those lug nuts torqued to less than 160 lbs. or so. I retorqued them to 90lbs. using a recently calibrated Snap-On torque wrench. The Mark VIII had undersized disk brakes in the front, so over torquing the lug nuts often resulted in warped brake rotors due to the heat generated, so I was very careful to make sure that the lug nuts were properly torqued (you can figure our how I came to that conclusion pretty easily).
And, by the way, you shouldn't be using regular sockets with an impact gun (pneumatic or electric). Normal sockets are a thin wall design, designed to get into tight spots. They are not designed to be used with impact guns. In places with clearance, use a proper impact socket, usually matte black in colour, and much heavier in construction. Regular sockets can actually break or even blow apart when used with an impact gun.
On my 1993 Lincoln Mark VIII, the torque spec was 80-100 ft. lbs. Mechanic asked me the torque spec, and I told him. He used a yellow coloured torque stick, out of a selection of 6-8 torque sticks of various colours. Since I don't trust anybody who uses an impact to tighten lug nuts, with or without a torque stick, as soon as I got the car home, I got each wheel up with the car's jack, and loosened the lug nuts. Took a 24" 1/2" breaker bar, with me practically standing on the bar (I weighed 210lbs. at the time) to get them loose. No way were those lug nuts torqued to less than 160 lbs. or so. I retorqued them to 90lbs. using a recently calibrated Snap-On torque wrench. The Mark VIII had undersized disk brakes in the front, so over torquing the lug nuts often resulted in warped brake rotors due to the heat generated, so I was very careful to make sure that the lug nuts were properly torqued (you can figure our how I came to that conclusion pretty easily).
And, by the way, you shouldn't be using regular sockets with an impact gun (pneumatic or electric). Normal sockets are a thin wall design, designed to get into tight spots. They are not designed to be used with impact guns. In places with clearance, use a proper impact socket, usually matte black in colour, and much heavier in construction. Regular sockets can actually break or even blow apart when used with an impact gun.
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Justwondering
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I learned quite a bit from these past three posts...
I found my breaker bar that I usually use with my ratchet & regular sockets.
I found the black matt sockets which must go to the impact tool; however, no impact tool. The plastic container is there for it; however, it is somewhere in the clutter in the garage.
High today was 45 so I was going to use the heat gun on the lugs to help encourage them to release since I'll already have it out trying to remove the last 2 inches of flexible fuel line from the metal fuel line.
When I realized at 9 am this morning that it was Saturday. I'm driving 2 hours back into Dallas area to have lunch with my 84 year old cousin Helen who is visiting her 98 year old friend Marge. Marge's family is from Hungary/slovak area and doesn't know much of her family history. I've been working on it and am going to show her what I've found.
Looking like Sunday is going to be my day.
GregG -- I get what you are saying. I just wanted the tire up off the rim in case I can save it when I get it to the tire guy. These are 10 ply for the farm truck and those suckers are 1. heavy and 2. expensive to replace.
Aspen500 - last time I had the tires rotated Don (the retired navy guy) wasn't there to do it. Some young 20 something did it so I'm sure he just ran it up without checking the torque. Cause, you know, no one would ever by out somewhere and have a flat and not have access to an impact tool to remove them while stranded -- now would they??
kkritsilas -- do you every watch Project Farm videos on youtube? Talking about tolerances... he has a video comparing tire pressure gauges and provided great stats on the low end/high end/ after being really hot/ after being really cold / analog--pencil--and digital ... stats and useful info... excellent way to spend 20 minutes or so...
JW
I found my breaker bar that I usually use with my ratchet & regular sockets.
I found the black matt sockets which must go to the impact tool; however, no impact tool. The plastic container is there for it; however, it is somewhere in the clutter in the garage.
High today was 45 so I was going to use the heat gun on the lugs to help encourage them to release since I'll already have it out trying to remove the last 2 inches of flexible fuel line from the metal fuel line.
When I realized at 9 am this morning that it was Saturday. I'm driving 2 hours back into Dallas area to have lunch with my 84 year old cousin Helen who is visiting her 98 year old friend Marge. Marge's family is from Hungary/slovak area and doesn't know much of her family history. I've been working on it and am going to show her what I've found.
Looking like Sunday is going to be my day.
GregG -- I get what you are saying. I just wanted the tire up off the rim in case I can save it when I get it to the tire guy. These are 10 ply for the farm truck and those suckers are 1. heavy and 2. expensive to replace.
Aspen500 - last time I had the tires rotated Don (the retired navy guy) wasn't there to do it. Some young 20 something did it so I'm sure he just ran it up without checking the torque. Cause, you know, no one would ever by out somewhere and have a flat and not have access to an impact tool to remove them while stranded -- now would they??
kkritsilas -- do you every watch Project Farm videos on youtube? Talking about tolerances... he has a video comparing tire pressure gauges and provided great stats on the low end/high end/ after being really hot/ after being really cold / analog--pencil--and digital ... stats and useful info... excellent way to spend 20 minutes or so...
JW
XfbodyX
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Wow... looks like some here have 97% hands on experience with 3% "blah blah" and others have 70% "training skills" 20% "hands on" and 10% "head up there ass".
Before anyone gets stupid over my post this is an inside joke one poster will get so if anyone does want to get butthurt there is an old Carley Simon song on youtube for ya.
Before anyone gets stupid over my post this is an inside joke one poster will get so if anyone does want to get butthurt there is an old Carley Simon song on youtube for ya.
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kkritsilas
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I watch pretty much every episode of Project Farm, love his efforts at coming up with repeatable, solid tests.I believe he is running an honest show, and isn't biased in any way. The shows that I really like are the ones on wrenches (combination wrenches, gear wrenches, ratchet handles, etc.) He really gives a good indication of which are the best, and best value for the money. Only thing is, some of the stuff he talks about isn't available up here (most of the big name ones are, some of the lesser known, but better value brands are not).
Sorry to get so nit-picky about stuff, but I have some background in metrology (the art of measuring things), sort of a by product of what I used to do for a living. So, any time I run into situations like my Lincoln Mark VIII's lug nuts, the gears start to turn, and then the shovel comes out and I dig into it, sometimes pretty deeply. Hope i"m not boring people. Also note, jack handles are made the length they are to give enough leverage to allow the lug nuts to be removed/put back on by an "average person (whatever that means).
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Justwondering
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3 things today --
1. Successfully got the tire of the truck & down to the mechanic to find the problem. Turns out it was a rim feather leak at he rim. Original rims/aluminum corrosion is the likely suspect. Left the tire and will pick it up on Wed or Thurs.
Used my regular thin wall socket and large 1/2 inch drive, 20 inch breaker bar, and my foot/leg power to get lugs loose. Having the temps up to 64 today vs 44 probably helped as well. And, of course, wearing the new lip gloss I bought this weekend made all the difference I'm sure.lol
2. BUT FIRST, had to take the car down to the same mechanic because the front driver's side tire loses 8 pounds of pressure every 48 hours. Sigh. What is this deal?? Fortunately, it was a very small sharp rock that barely broke through the thread. Got it patched and back on the car today.
3. Got appointment for dog to get bordatella & regular vaccines on Thursday. He goes to the kennel this weekend while I drive 6 hours to take my 84 year old cousin back home to her house in west texas this weekend. She's been up here in north texas since September visiting her 98 year old friend, Marge. Marge is probably going to assisted living after the first of the year so this will be the last time the two ladies will ever see each other -- at least that's the current thought.
So I'm going back out and seeing if the heat gun can remove the remaining fuel line.
JW
1. Successfully got the tire of the truck & down to the mechanic to find the problem. Turns out it was a rim feather leak at he rim. Original rims/aluminum corrosion is the likely suspect. Left the tire and will pick it up on Wed or Thurs.
Used my regular thin wall socket and large 1/2 inch drive, 20 inch breaker bar, and my foot/leg power to get lugs loose. Having the temps up to 64 today vs 44 probably helped as well. And, of course, wearing the new lip gloss I bought this weekend made all the difference I'm sure.lol
2. BUT FIRST, had to take the car down to the same mechanic because the front driver's side tire loses 8 pounds of pressure every 48 hours. Sigh. What is this deal?? Fortunately, it was a very small sharp rock that barely broke through the thread. Got it patched and back on the car today.
3. Got appointment for dog to get bordatella & regular vaccines on Thursday. He goes to the kennel this weekend while I drive 6 hours to take my 84 year old cousin back home to her house in west texas this weekend. She's been up here in north texas since September visiting her 98 year old friend, Marge. Marge is probably going to assisted living after the first of the year so this will be the last time the two ladies will ever see each other -- at least that's the current thought.
So I'm going back out and seeing if the heat gun can remove the remaining fuel line.
JW
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Justwondering
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Just got my delivery for the replacement cartridge in the kitchen faucet.
I should just hang it up and crawl in a cave.
I ordered the right number but the wrong size.
I wish I could get my head on straight.. these little things just send me careening
I want the old me back...
JW
I should just hang it up and crawl in a cave.
I ordered the right number but the wrong size.
I wish I could get my head on straight.. these little things just send me careening
I want the old me back...
JW
Aspen500
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You'll probably never get the old you completely back because part of the old you can't come back. However, in time, some of the old you will return. Hope that comes across the way I intended it to.
BTW, guess who else needs to go get a new kitchen faucet cartridge?
BTW, guess who else needs to go get a new kitchen faucet cartridge?
Justwondering
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Aspen500 -- hugs and kisses to you and your sweetie ... pep talks are always welcome.
Had to take my 84 year old cousin back home to west texas -- 7 hours, 1 day layover, and 7 hours back.
Monday returned and found a package at my gate.
New faucet cartridge...
By 7: 32 pm I had the old one out and the new one in! Life is much better now.
More details later.
JW
Had to take my 84 year old cousin back home to west texas -- 7 hours, 1 day layover, and 7 hours back.
Monday returned and found a package at my gate.
New faucet cartridge...
By 7: 32 pm I had the old one out and the new one in! Life is much better now.
More details later.
JW
Justwondering
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So many chores get in the way of progress on the Chrysler.
But, I've got my eye on the target for tomorrow... get the old gas out and the new filter in.
Chevy is now street legal again.. but I did call DarthCar to get his opinion on why the dang left front turn signal was spazzing. Looks like he will be getting a new nickname. His wife bought him a western, felt hat for Christmas. Told him to be careful or he'll turn into a Coca-Cola Cowboy ...
Got the blower motor back in on the Chevy and replaced the ac resistor; but now I have heat, no AC, no level 5 blower. And my solution for the rat entry prevention was a solid FAIL. My hardware cloth was pushed a wee bit too far into the air canal ?? (yep -- one of you will tell me what the technical name is I'm sure So now I have introduced a new 'rattle' that I can't get too. Going to try my flexible grabber if I get too it before the cold weather comes in on Sunday. If not, it goes back in the queue. Chrysler is at the top of the list now.
Putting up additional guttering on the porch roof we added early last year. When it starts raining again, I want to harvest the water and not have it pound the life out of the wooden stairs.
JW
But, I've got my eye on the target for tomorrow... get the old gas out and the new filter in.
Chevy is now street legal again.. but I did call DarthCar to get his opinion on why the dang left front turn signal was spazzing. Looks like he will be getting a new nickname. His wife bought him a western, felt hat for Christmas. Told him to be careful or he'll turn into a Coca-Cola Cowboy ...
Got the blower motor back in on the Chevy and replaced the ac resistor; but now I have heat, no AC, no level 5 blower. And my solution for the rat entry prevention was a solid FAIL. My hardware cloth was pushed a wee bit too far into the air canal ?? (yep -- one of you will tell me what the technical name is I'm sure
So now I have introduced a new 'rattle' that I can't get too. Going to try my flexible grabber if I get too it before the cold weather comes in on Sunday. If not, it goes back in the queue. Chrysler is at the top of the list now.Putting up additional guttering on the porch roof we added early last year. When it starts raining again, I want to harvest the water and not have it pound the life out of the wooden stairs.
JW
Justwondering
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Like this is a surprise... the weather moved in faster than weathercasters said and I had to spend a day weatherproofing my brother's place and the family trust house/land.
Made it home in time to get my place ready then had 1/4 inch ice, 6 to 7 inches of snow, and another 1/2 inch of rain that froze over night.
Had only one line in the house that froze, so my prep was much more effective this year.
Temps got to 44 today and will be above freezing each going forward, so I'm all good.
And then tonight, I managed to lose a cap off one tooth while eating potato salad.... good grief.... Now I have 24 hours and I'll have to start chasing the Dentist.
Ergo -- They Fifth Avenue is no longer #1 priority until the dental situation is resolved....
And life continues to march along...
JW
Made it home in time to get my place ready then had 1/4 inch ice, 6 to 7 inches of snow, and another 1/2 inch of rain that froze over night.
Had only one line in the house that froze, so my prep was much more effective this year.
Temps got to 44 today and will be above freezing each going forward, so I'm all good.
And then tonight, I managed to lose a cap off one tooth while eating potato salad.... good grief.... Now I have 24 hours and I'll have to start chasing the Dentist.
Ergo -- They Fifth Avenue is no longer #1 priority until the dental situation is resolved....
And life continues to march along...
JW
Oldiron440
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That darn potato salad…
Justwondering
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Dentist says $3,157 and he can fix the dental problems I have right now. Said he thinks I'm stressed and depressed.
Winner winner chicken dinner....sigh
JW
Winner winner chicken dinner....sigh
JW
GregG48213
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So for about thirty-two hundred bucks, he can fix your teeth, relieve your stress and make you happy.
Oldiron440
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Tell him that he can cut your stress in half by cutting his bill in half and that would make you happy.
Justwondering
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Apparently, I've lived longer than three old-style silver fillings effectiveness.
As time goes by, the fillings eventually fail by expanding and cracking the teeth.
One cracked the tooth so bad only 1/3 of the tooth is left. So all the severe pain that started on Christmas Eve and ended 48 hours later was the tooth dying.
The other two are just starting to crack the teeth so its preventative to avoid major issues in a year or two.
GregG -- everything you said is correct; however, I can think of easier ways to reduce my stress without spending 3k. Just can't see me doing it with no teeth.
JW
As time goes by, the fillings eventually fail by expanding and cracking the teeth.
One cracked the tooth so bad only 1/3 of the tooth is left. So all the severe pain that started on Christmas Eve and ended 48 hours later was the tooth dying.
The other two are just starting to crack the teeth so its preventative to avoid major issues in a year or two.
GregG -- everything you said is correct; however, I can think of easier ways to reduce my stress without spending 3k. Just can't see me doing it with no teeth.
JW
Justwondering
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Yesterday it was a warm and sunny day with very light winds.
I was able to get the new filter on; however, I'm not satisfied with one of the connecting tubes. I cut each of them shorter so it would all fit in the space; however, I think one side is too short.
Got everything connected back and planned to go back out this afternoon to replace just that one tube with a longer one. Unfortunately, wind gusts up to 30mph and we barely got up to low 50's.
Looks like weather is going to stop progress again for another 4 or 5 days.
I swear, when I get all this end-of-life debt paid off, I'm going to put in a garage long and wide enough to work on my cars in any weather.
JW
I was able to get the new filter on; however, I'm not satisfied with one of the connecting tubes. I cut each of them shorter so it would all fit in the space; however, I think one side is too short.
Got everything connected back and planned to go back out this afternoon to replace just that one tube with a longer one. Unfortunately, wind gusts up to 30mph and we barely got up to low 50's.
Looks like weather is going to stop progress again for another 4 or 5 days.
I swear, when I get all this end-of-life debt paid off, I'm going to put in a garage long and wide enough to work on my cars in any weather.
JW
Justwondering
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First decent day in two weeks. We've had ice, snow, sleet, more snow, 4 inches of rain, and 2 weeks of 20 degree evenings. Yesterday was better and today would have been a great day to work on the fuel removal.
If the bull, calf and two of the heifers had not gotten out of the pasture. So spent quality time down at the trust getting all the parties back in their proper location.
Instead this evening, watched some robot videos and waited for it to get dark so I could see
Moon - Saturn - Venus - Jupiter - Mars nearly in a straight line. Mercury was too low in the horizon. Those were visible with naked eye. The other two were in alignment as well but you'd need a telescope (Uranus and Neptune).
Tomorrow I drive 2 hours to pick up What-a-Burger lunch for a guy I went to high school with but never met before. He's my older brother's football buddy and just had brain surgery to remove two golfball size tumors. Taking him lunch and homemade cookies and homemade hot chocolate mix. Brother can no longer travel much until he gets his new knees. So I'm headed over to drop off some edibles and then go visit my husband's last boss & his wife.
Getting closure.
Planning on Making progress on Sunday.
JW
If the bull, calf and two of the heifers had not gotten out of the pasture. So spent quality time down at the trust getting all the parties back in their proper location.
Instead this evening, watched some robot videos and waited for it to get dark so I could see
Moon - Saturn - Venus - Jupiter - Mars nearly in a straight line. Mercury was too low in the horizon. Those were visible with naked eye. The other two were in alignment as well but you'd need a telescope (Uranus and Neptune).
Tomorrow I drive 2 hours to pick up What-a-Burger lunch for a guy I went to high school with but never met before. He's my older brother's football buddy and just had brain surgery to remove two golfball size tumors. Taking him lunch and homemade cookies and homemade hot chocolate mix. Brother can no longer travel much until he gets his new knees. So I'm headed over to drop off some edibles and then go visit my husband's last boss & his wife.
Getting closure.
Planning on Making progress on Sunday.
JW
Justwondering
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Well -- Sunday was a bust . dinner on saturday was good but the 2 hour drive home was long and lonely and I was in tears most of Sunday.
Today - Monday - Dentist . Good news. One of the silver fillings was replaced. Bad News- the tooth that broke due to the silver filling expanding was prepped for a crown right up until we did the 3d imaging and discovered one of the roots was infected and encapsulated which is the long way of saying at least 2 week delay in finishing which will now include a root canal prior to the crown being cemented in. And yes, that's another $1,252 dollars as well.
Looks like I'll be paying on medical bills again all year long.
On a liquid/soft diet for the month of February.
On a good note - its going to be 70 to 80 all week. So I'll try the fuel filter again on Tuesday.
JW
Today - Monday - Dentist . Good news. One of the silver fillings was replaced. Bad News- the tooth that broke due to the silver filling expanding was prepped for a crown right up until we did the 3d imaging and discovered one of the roots was infected and encapsulated which is the long way of saying at least 2 week delay in finishing which will now include a root canal prior to the crown being cemented in. And yes, that's another $1,252 dollars as well.
Looks like I'll be paying on medical bills again all year long.
On a liquid/soft diet for the month of February.
On a good note - its going to be 70 to 80 all week. So I'll try the fuel filter again on Tuesday.
JW
