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  1. Oldiron440

    Oldiron440 Well-Known Member

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    If I didn't have mine I wouldn't buy one or another one. Hell I've been thinking of putting the drivetrain in true race car with a - 2500lbs race weight.
     
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    Aspen500 Well-Known Member

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    I don't know why F-bodies have a rust reputation. Aside from the early ones with the fenders rusting out, they didn't rust any faster than the other comparable cars on the road. I remember '76 Camaro's with the 1/4's flopping in the breeze and bottoms of the doors gone in my high schools parking lot (class of '82 here). Mustangs, Chevelle's, Aspen, Nova, Corolla, Rabbit, Torino , etc........Five years old and rotted 1/4's, rusted out floors, rockers almost gone, on and on. Rust is an equal opportunity employer. I've seen 2016 Silverado's with the bed side rotted out above the wheel openings and rockers with the integrity of egg shells. I don't hear anyone saying how they're rust buckets. How about the late 2000's F150's that you can't lift on a frame hoist because the frame rusted so thin it'll just collapse. Early 2000's Toyota trucks that got scrapped at 5 or 6 years old when they literally broke in half going down the road:eek:. None of those are called rust buckets. Somehow it's just Aspen and Volare that people think rusted fast. No other car before or since has rust problems I guess. Driven year round with typical cleaning and about every vehicle on the road around here has at least one rust hole by the time they're ten years old, most don't make it that long before the perforations begin. If it's kept washed, outside AND underside, along with all the nooks and crannies, you can extend the no rust showing for maybe 15 years but then it'll go from looking good to a rotted out heap in one winter. That's how my '96 Dakota went. LOOKED fine (turned out looks were deceiving) one fall, next spring the inner and outer rockers, cab corners, bottoms of the front fenders, parts of the floor, wheel openings on the bed, one cab mount brace and other parts disintegrated. :(

    While I'm on a roll:p what really grinds my gears is when the Mopar snobs don't consider an F-body a "real Mopar". To them, Chrysler Corp only built cars from 1964-1974, didn't build full size trucks until 1994 and didn't build Dakota's until 1997 and then they started building cars again in 2005. Snobs is all they are.
     
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    Either you had you wheaties this morning or didn't have a beer after work!
     
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    old yellow 78 Well-Known Member

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    I agree with you Aspen500. I was just thinking the same thing on Saturday when I picked up my 2000 F150 from state inspection. I was worried that it wouldn't pass due to the rusted away rockers and the holes in the cab corners and rear quarters. But turns out, that wasn't the problem. The gas tank was rotted out at the filler and needed to be replaced. What an expensive PITA that was to fix! At least Ford had a recall I used for the gas tank STRAPS. They tend to rust away and leave your rusty tank to drag on the ground and explode. Last years inspection required a new radiator support @ $1200!!! WTF, it is only a horizontal piece of metal that has nothing against it to hold water or debris! Several giant holes rusted out in it though for no apparent reason!! The truck leaks like a sieve from the back window, and the bottom of the doors are all rotted out too. "At Ford, Quality is Job 1!!" Yeah, right. :mad:
    I have never had any such rust problem on any of my F's. The worst rust was on my original '76 Premier that the floors began to rot out in the back. I suppose it had a leak, but I never knew it. Anyway, it was an excellent car in all other ways and I traded it in at over 150K miles, so some rust was to be expected IMO.
    I think it is because the fender rust was so widely reported and so obvious by requiring the entire fender to be replaced. Regardless, I really don't care what anyone else thinks about my Aspen. I love it and actually feel a little smug in owning a car that is so unusual and in such good shape after 41 years! ;)
     
  5. barbee6043

    barbee6043 Well-Known Member

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    I admit my time with the F body has come late in life. I have always enjoyed learning about Mopar models I never had before. Sort of like learning body work. I continue to learn how, due to the fact I can't afford to pay $80/hr for the work. I like my Volares. There are things I love and things I dislike about every model Mopar I have ever had or even seen. The only reason I understand about some of the "issues" with the F bodies is that have read from people with knowledge about how it came happen. What I read stated Mother Mopar changed her method of cleaning and priming. Sounds reasonable. Nothing is perfect.
    Rust? Like just said, metal rusts, all cars rust somewhere, at some time. I have restored E, different A and B bodies, couple of F's. With the A, B, and E bodies I can tell you the likely rust areas. Not that every one rusted in those same areas. Few I have had never had any rust, I have a 79 supersix Volare that NEVER had any rust anywhere. No doubt the guy I got it from got it from some old folks and it also came out of central Tx not the rust belt!
    Snobs? Lets face it, not every car person finds every model exciting or sexy. My wife's favorite in out 62 Lancer, the RoadToad. She likes it shape, unique. 99% of Mopar guys would not own a Toad if paid to take it home. Then there are the guys that are purists and hate anything not all factory OEM. Some people hate certain models. First gen Chargers maybe, or a later model Duster with the "beak nose". Some people hate F bodies, other love them more than anything. Some people own them because they got one cheap. No doubt in the F world there are purists, hotrodders, racers, etc just all other model groups.
    I like the enthusiasm of the F guys, and they remind me of the typical Mopar guy back in the 80's, grass root guys.