The FMJ Music Channel

[ColinV]

Nice one sir! Most of the reason I can't listen to mainstream country anymore, even though I grew up on it. It's either completely brainless lyrics repeated over and over, or it's a cover of an seventies rock song that needed absolutely no covering ever as it was great the first and only time.

 

[Jack Meoff]

Nice one sir! Most of the reason I can't listen to mainstream country anymore, even though I grew up on it. It's either completely brainless lyrics repeated over and over, or it's a cover of an seventies rock song that needed absolutely no covering ever as it was great the first and only time.

I fully agree.
The last stands were Alan Jackson and Brad Paisley.
It's in the toilet now......too bad.

Not sure if I've posted this....

http://youtu.be/qfuM1w_28KY

 

[ColinV]

I fully agree.
The last stands were Alan Jackson and Brad Paisley.
It's in the toilet now......too bad.

I've almost completely switched allegiance from Nashville to Austin, Vancouver and Edmonton recorded and produced music when it comes to my country. True most of it has a more rock or folk flair to it but at least for the most part writing and musicianship still plays a vital role. Cross Canadian Ragweed, the song "Sick & Tired" I posted earlier with Lee Ann Womack backing, was one of the best for my money, pity they are no more. Sorry for the rant but I am a music nerd 100 percent. One of my favourite bands, I posted "Crazy Eddie's Last Hurrah" earlier as a fun concert (live) sing along for them, is Reckless Kelly a Band based out of Austin but primarily from Stanley, Idaho. Here's a couple of my favourites from them.
Reckless Kelly - Vancouver
[video=youtube_share;X-dEz3DumJk]http://youtu.be/X-dEz3DumJk?list=PLCF800C5D2B602F23[/video]
Reckless Kelly - Wicked Twisted Road
[video=youtube_share;B38pNFM9a3k]http://youtu.be/B38pNFM9a3k?list=PLCF800C5D2B602F23[/video]

 

[ColinV]

Or if a cover tune is your favourite thing, I submit a cover from UK's Richard Thompson.
Reckless Kelly - 1952 Vincent Black Lightning
[video=youtube_share;hlylarCRayI]http://youtu.be/hlylarCRayI?list=PLCF800C5D2B602F23[/video]
Another Austin band shunned by mainstream because every second word doesn't rhyme, I guess
Randy Rogers Band - Buy Myself a Chance
[video=youtube_share;voStsQfPLbg]http://youtu.be/voStsQfPLbg?list=PLA6866A264E5B631D[/video]

 

[ColinV]

Sorry for getting my music geek on this evening so for my apology!
Eleven Hundred Springs - I'm an S.O.B
[video=youtube_share;Yay03jzGpqk]http://youtu.be/Yay03jzGpqk?list=PLvTIIYD0YPNVpzJg-RBiYvJyZpgrQqhi1[/video]

 

[Superpac Ninja]

rap rocks ,,i like it all and hate none ,,same as races

 

[kkritsilas]

Only thing that rocks, is rock (by definition). I don't hate rap, I really don't think of it as music. Most of it is just a percussion track, in some cases with minimal other musical instruments (usually something that comes out of a computer or a synth) with somebody talking, not singing over the percussion track. By my own definition, not music. This is nothing more than a fancied up version, faster version of beat poetry, which nobody called music. Other point is that most rock and roll has themes that people can relate to. Whether it be women/girls, a particular situation, or world event, at least most people can relate in some way. Most rap seems to just be lowest common denominator, I have a big penis, I'm going to f*** some woman/girl and be the best she ever had, I've got a lot of money, cars, prostitutes, etc., with a lot of swearing thrown in. Guess what? I don't care, and I cannot really relate.

Rap is taking the same path that shred metal took, and will end up the same way: irrelevant. Not because it can't be better than it is, but because, after you have sworn your head off, repeated the same themes over and over again, shown off your grilles for the 400th time, shot scenes with lots of scantily clad women and fancy cars, where do you go?

Kostas

 

[Jack Meoff]

Music has chord structure and melody.
Rap is a foul mouthed auctioneer mindlessly rambling over a drum machine and a sine wave.

Almost every rap (piece?) I've heard sounds like it was written and created by a frustrated autistic five year old with an iPad.

By clear definition....it's NOT music.

 

[Bryan M.]

See if you can accurately value how much money is flying in this video.

 

[Blackbirdsrt78]

Music has chord structure and melody.
Rap is a foul mouthed auctioneer mindlessly rambling over a drum machine and a sine wave.

Almost every rap (piece?) I've heard sounds like it was written and created by a frustrated autistic five year old with an iPad.

By clear definition....it's NOT music.

Thats funny!

 

[Jack Meoff]

Thats funny!

:eusa_think: it's true! :happy6:

 

[Jack Meoff]

Dang this boy can pick!

http://youtu.be/xzImpR_HF7U

 

[Superpac Ninja]

Well rap makes mor cash yearly than any othere kind of music so someones liking it ,,including me like it of hate it ,,it dont really matter to me ,peace!

 

[Jack Meoff]

Well rap makes mor cash yearly than any othere kind of music so someones liking it ,,including me like it of hate it ,,it dont really matter to me ,peace!

To each his own brother.....but using money as a measuring stick of talent doesn't fly really. All you need to do is look at a list of high grossing acts and it becomes obvious that P.T. Barnum was right......it's actually not that hard to sell dog food to people.

 

[Superpac Ninja]

It was just sticking up for rap ,,alot of it it total trash imo but there is some i like same as all types of music ,,ill even listen to opera ,but only some of it i like the rest of it is trash to me as well ,lol,lol

 

[kkritsilas]

For some interesting acoustic guitar playing, see:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ip111lXjDSs

and also:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JJi-W2p1iEQ

Don Ross and Don Alder are both Canadian, and I have both seen and met them both. Don Ross is the guru of fingerstyle guitar in Canada. Don Alder used to be his student at one time, and plays with more fire and less technique. I have seen Don Ross with his version of an acoustic guitar whatmmy bar: he bends the neck, and allows it to snap back: I have also seen him retuned a guitar while playing to get the guitar into a difference key.

If you like flatpicking, this is one of my favourites:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oNxF6181bjY

also:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9JFgC3Ub10E

I took guitar class (just 1) with Dan Crary. He looks like he is back on a standard guitar; duing the class, he was on a Taylor prototype baritone.

Kostas

 

[kkritsilas]

Well rap makes mor cash yearly than any othere kind of music so someones liking it ,,including me like it of hate it ,,it dont really matter to me ,peace!

McDonald's sell more of what they call hamburgers than anybody else on the planet. Does that mean they make the best hamburgers? Or a hamburger, period?

Like i said before, there is a lot of crappy rock out, too. But even so, it still doesn't make rap, music.Its just beat poetry with a heavier percussion track; no harmony, no melody. A bunch of guys who think that the more swearing and profanity in a rap piece, makes it a better piece, or into music. Neither is true, and until rap is put to a melody/harmony structure, it isn't music.

Kostas

 

[Superpac Ninja]

McDonald's sell more of what they call hamburgers than anybody else on the planet. Does that mean they make the best hamburgers? Or a hamburger, period?

Like i said before, there is a lot of crappy rock out, too. But even so, it still doesn't make rap, music.Its just beat poetry with a heavier percussion track; no harmony, no melody. A bunch of guys who think that the more swearing and profanity in a rap piece, makes it a better piece, or into music. Neither is true, and until rap is put to a melody/harmony structure, it isn't music.

Kostas

Its not like me to argue or diss agree but what gives you the qualifications to say that rap isnt music? ,,i say it is ,,so who's right? .? Neither of us ,its just opinions ,but millions would diss agree with you me being one of them ,,any ways imthink its time to drop this as its a no win argument for anyone ,,lets just post music or whatever one thinks music is ,cheers

 

[Jack Meoff]

Its not like me to argue or diss agree but what gives you the qualifications to say that rap isnt music? ,,i say it is ,,so who's right? .? Neither of us ,its just opinions ,but millions would diss agree with you me being one of them ,,any ways imthink its time to drop this as its a no win argument for anyone ,,lets just post music or whatever one thinks music is ,cheers

Being a musician for an insane amount of years and having studied it extensively....my professional opinion is rap isn't music in the sense that music is a melodic chain over a choral structure as opposed to some monotone dribble rambled over a sampled drum beat and a droning sine wave in the guise of a bass line. What it IS is a form of entertainment which some folks seem to like.

The only reason I bring my point up again is because after spending decades of my life perfecting my craft I find the mindlessness of rap for lack of a better term....insulting.

That being said....the idea of this thread is so everyone can express what they like to listen to. I hate U2 but some folks love them. I really like country....some folks can't stand it.
That's irrelevant....different strokes for different folks.

Let's all post what we want to post and put the critiques to bed shall we? If you don't like the tune you can always change the station right?

 

[kkritsilas]

By definition, music has a harmony and a melody. Not an opinion, that is what music is defined as. I am not a musicologist, just sending out the definition.

You can listed to the sounds in a forest, but it isn't music. You can listen to the sounds of water dripping off a roof, and that's not music. Music has a defined structure, and rhythm, melody and harmony is what it is defined by. You, and all the fans of rap can listen to it, and you evidently enjoy it. More power to you. But all that does not make it music, BECAUSE IT LACKS HARMONY AND MELODY. Rap is not music; not by the definition of music. You can listen to it on the radio, but announcers talking on there are not music.

See this:

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/music

and this:

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/music

and this:

http://www.thefreedictionary.com/music

note that all 3 say that music has melody and harmony. They also say it has rhythm, which rap does. Rap may have timbre, but that really depends on the actual rap piece.

Sorry if this clashes with your beliefs, but it is what it is. The definition of music was in existence a long time before rap came along, and it will be around after rap is long gone. Rap can be powerful, and it can be inspirational. It cannot be music the way it is currently structured.

Kostas