how rare roadrunner with sunroof

[XfbodyX]

I also think the slant is a great engine too. I like them too, but dont say that too loud or you might get handed a broken broom stick from someone.

 

[Oldiron440]

XfbodyX
I don't think it is the /6 or the 318 I think it is any thing in general. Doing things just to make yourself happy with your vehicle doesn't apply hear or at least for the most part it's not understood. I have never understood why this forum is so different than the others I'm on.
As in when a member talks about making a modification for performance they are faced with so much negativity from members. It's not there car or money but somehow then need to have a negative opinion.

If you what to put headers and a duel exhaust, a 4v carb and a set of 3.55 gears you won't here cool, but you will here why it shouldn't be done.
IDK

 

[XfbodyX]

Yep, I know what ya mean. Im not on FABO but I do read alot of tech stuff there because it normal people stuff and most the time what the op is wanting to do is embraced and supported unless its just stupid and the poster just dont grasp things.

I really agree on doing what makes one happy, im a happy camper in my shop because im doing what I want. Hmmm maybe in a socialist society we could be more restricted in our own shops.

Dont make me bring up a .070 over 360.

 

[Oldiron440]

Oh go ahead, I triple dog dare ya.....

 

[80mirada]

Hopping up the 318 seems to get slapped down all over the place. That said there are a ton of 350-400hp build recipes for them. The slant six is just expensive to do now since parts are scarce and good stuff is hardly made at all for them (there is some stuff out there though). Steve Dulcich (Engine Masters) has championed the poor little 318 as a build candidate for years. Ford guys build up 302s and Chevy guys build up 305s, yet the 318 gets the it's too small excuse.

 

[Oldiron440]

I think it comes from the thinking more is better, more cubes is easier to make more power.....period. That's how a got into 440s back in the early 80s. After I build my first one I started looking for a bigger crankshaft, this was before you could just order a new one and I found a 4.25 welded crank from someone, I can't remember now but my engine building buddy didn't like the idea so I held off. He didn't like the stock rod length and the 4.25 stroke, 4.15 works but not 4.25 and I didn't want aluminum rods after all it's a street car. Lol

 

[XfbodyX]

A 340 being over square makes them a big achiever, hmmmm not like I need anymore unfinished projects but I wonder how much it would cost to cut a 360 crank down, either to a 2.00 rod journal or simply offset grind it for less stroke?

I need to sell the dam 360 block and that would solve that headache before it happened.

 

[kmccabe56]

Per the book there were well over 2500 76-77 f-s produced, far less in 76 then 77. My sunroof R/T seems to be like less then 500 and it would be a stretch to toss a number out there with any kind of accuracy.

I had a different sunroof F superpack car that if I knew better then id of kept it and replaced all it needed but I didnt, a regret I will have for a good bit of time.

What "book" are you referring to?

 

[XfbodyX]

Its the white book from galens tag service, you can still buy them. There are semi accurate and has all the codes ect... a decent reference book for $10

The info on the 77 is better then the 76s.

But here they are, but if you add up all the sunroof cars V8 and /6 f-s on the list its around 2500.

 

[Aspen500]

I think it comes from the thinking more is better, more cubes is easier to make more power.....period. That's how a got into 440s back in the early 80s. After I build my first one I started looking for a bigger crankshaft, this was before you could just order a new one and I found a 4.25 welded crank from someone, I can't remember now but my engine building buddy didn't like the idea so I held off. He didn't like the stock rod length and the 4.25 stroke, 4.15 works but not 4.25 and I didn't want aluminum rods after all it's a street car. Lol

I ended up with big block in the Aspen sort of on a not really serious comment form my buddy ("if you're going to swap from a slant 6 to a V-8, you might as well go all the way and put a big block in......") Then everyone that knew I was thinking about doing it said "it can't be done", "it'll never fit". Had to prove them wrong, didn't I?

 

[XfbodyX]

The first 440 in an aspen I knew of was done in 77, his name was Dan, but unfortunately hes dead now. But it was in a mag way back in 78, I think I still have it, I will lookie.

 

[Aspen500]

Mine was done 12 years later. Damn, he beat me to it! At one point there was another big block Aspen around here (reportedly a 440). I remember seeing it a couple three times and then it just vanished through a time/space portal, never to be seen again. That was back in the very early '90's.

 

[XfbodyX]

I really think a BB in a early a body was a tighter fit then a 440 in an F was when I had mine. But my 69 BB dart had factory manifolds and god two of the drivers side plugs were a pain since the manifold was cast to curve around the steering arm.

In like a mid 70s mag they took a 340 and put it in a tiny colt and talk about some fab work there.

Not taking away anything from the ones who have aor will do a BB swap but really thinking about it, there really is no huge challenges to a 440 swap into an F for anyone who can use a welder and a torch like in the days before the conversion mounts.

 

[Aspen500]

That's the way mine was done. Since every V-8 k-frame I found in 1989 was rotted out, cut the mount brackets off the V-8 K, and cut them off my not rusted out original S6 K, and welded the V-8 ones on. Trans is easy, mounts in the same spot on the same crossmember. All because a buddy made a might as well comment. Then when I rebuilt the car from the ground up years later"might as well, while I'm at it"...............Sigh. It was worth all the money and 12 years of work though! If it hadn't been for one comment, the car would have a 360 in it. I think that engine ended up in either a Duster or Satellite, don't remember which anymore.

 

[Oldiron440]

I've swapped a 440 in both the A and F body and the F was more work just because of the headers I used. I used Ebody Headman 2" slip fit race headers that fit fit very well with the exception of one tube, #7 went right up to the rag joint and gave it a good rub even with the column moved over so I installed a joint, problem solved. The motor mounts are no more difficult on one or the other, same with the radiator and transmission. The Abody received Hooker fenderwell headers and had I know they fit F bodys I would have gladly used them, transmission or starter work is sooo much easier than the others.
The only change I will be making is that I will be using a motor plate when it goes back together. I'll mill the water pump housing the thicknesses of the plate and gaskets so the pulleys align.