WTF is Ford thinking???

Nice "Strap On" airplane?

With there gas tanks, them would make good bottle rockets.

Could look like this.
 
Oldiron440 said:
I've always wanted to know what they have for heat/defrost in them and how fast that must zap the battery.
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Everything is electric. Heat, A/C, everything............ Winter in WI, -20, lights on, heater cranked, rear deroster on,,,,,,,,,,,,range drops big time. It all runs of the same batteries, just with 12V instead of 330 or higher.
 
I get the new electric car thing. I get it, BUT, the technology has still not matured enough for me to consider buying one. It just doesn't fit my lifestyle.

Greg
 
Not pleased with any of these electric things that are supposed to be cars, but in terms of Ford attempting to call one a Mustang there may be some logic to it. Some of these new electric motor vehicles can whip out a ton of instant horse-power, and give an amazing 0-60 time, and due to their overall more slippery design, their aerodynamics makes them go even faster.

So perhaps despite all of its shortcomings, in terms of being a fire breathing, fast looking Mustang, it might be; only my backside would know how it stacks up for sure. :)
 
My only real gripe is using the Mustang name on it. Call it something else, just not Mustang. It'd be like Dodge building an electric so called "COV" and calling it a Challenger R/T-E or something. It's just not right. Yeah I know, they called the late '70's Mitsubishi thing a Challenger but at least it was a 2 door rear drive car and the E-body Challenger was history. I guess the buying public will be the ultimate determination if Ford made the right call or not. It's such a niche market, I can't imagine it being more than a way to satisfy the EPA and the freaks on the left coast so they can still build mega-hp REAL Mustang's. Kind of like when the GM ads said about the Chevy Volt. They said "It's not the car we wanted to build, it was the car we HAD to build". I always took that to mean to satisfy the (at he time) Obama administration and the bail out money, they built the car but didn't want to, and knew it would never sell very well, which it didn't. As I mentioned, the Nissan dealer here has sold a grand total of one Leaf and the Chevy dealer couldn't give the Volt away. and it wasn't all electric, it's a plug in hybrid. Last I heard, they haven't sold any Bolt's either (all electric). Doesn't help I suppose that the Bolt is one ugly son of a bean either. Shrunken Pontiac Aztec comes to mind.:eek:
 
Aspen500 --
I'm not sure I fully understand how you feel about the electric cars.

You seem to be a little wishy-washy in your observations.

ROFLMAO....
:p

JW
 
New technology will continue whether any of us like it or not. Who would of thought that almost ever human today is controlled by the addiction of a small hand held device?
 
Justwondering said:
Aspen500 --
I'm not sure I fully understand how you feel about the electric cars.

You seem to be a little wishy-washy in your observations.

ROFLMAO....
:p

JW
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Personally, I don't like electric cars and don't ever want to own one. Some people want an electric car and I'm fine with that. What ever turns your crank. Maybe I should say whatever turns your armature, instead :D Just don't call a 4 door COV/SUV thing a Mustang.
 
Electric cars are not "future" technology... Overview of early electric cars (1895-1925) ... They lost to gasoline in the 1920s because a naturally occurring stable liquid explosive is a FAR more energy efficient, versatile, and practical "battery". The internal combustion engine wastes over 70% of gasoline's energy in transfer and thermal losses and STILL kick the practical crap out of electrochemical storage and an electric motor (cost, weight, range, kilowatt-hours, etc).

IMO our efforts would be much better spent building a more efficient internal combustion process and a CHEAP way to turn nuclear energy into a liquid battery with high energy density.
 
It is always funny how some think what failed 100 years ago will somehow work now. Sure we have better batteries and motors and electronics but it's just as you said Opticon. Not going to get into it here of course, but that applies to many things. If we erase history, hide history, record history incorrectly or fail to study history, we're fated to making the same mistakes again. I've seen it many times. Engineers would try something on a car in 1990 and it was a disaster. Jump forward 10 years to 2000 and new engineers just out of college do,,,,,,,,THE EXACT SAME THING and guess what, it failed miserably. A few years later and, lather, rinse, repeat. They keep trying the same failed engineering concept over and over and over. What's the saying? The definaition of an idiot is trying the same thing and expecting a different result? The modern internal combustion engine runs so efficiently, you could run it in the average closed garage and chances are, it would run out of gas before it killed you.

It's happening now where the older hybrid's have battery packs that are worn out. They can only be recharged just so many times. Replacement costs are higher than the vehicle is worth (with good batteries) and so, they get scrapped before their time. Would you stick $4,000+ into a 10-15 year old car with 150,000 miles? Probably not. Plus, there are very few places that are licensed and qualified with the required safety equipment to change hybrid battery packs. Accidentally touch the wrong thing and you're dead. They say you'll never know you did it because it will be instant death. There I go off on a tangent again! :eek:
 
The battery (Li-Ion) for my laptop computer (Dell) is only rated for a maximum of 350 recharges. I ‘m not sure if a recharge is from 0 to full or from 85% to full – but still, if you use your computer every day and recharge it every night – that’s not even a year before the battery needs replacing. I know a battery for my computer is not as expensive as an electric car battery but still – only 350 recharges?

The ultimate electric car would be an atomic powered one. No recharging needed. The only downside I see is terrorist getting ahold of a few to devise a new toy to play with.
BudW
 
Not nuclear ... think fusion. Far superior and efficient for energy creation. Course, living 'up north', the excess heat it generates could warm your home ...

Jeeze, I'm funny tonight.

JW
 
Most manufacturers call a recharge anything that starts below 20%, and goes to a full charge (100%), and the 350 point is where the battery will recharge to 85% of new capacity. Your Dell only has 350 recharge cycles because Dell has cheaped out on the batteries. Apple laptops are rated at 1000 cycles, for example.

Many electric cars are not using Li-Ion, or Li-Ion Polymer batteries (as used in cellphones, tablets, and laptops), but LiFePO2 (Lithium Ferrous Phosphate) batteries, which typically can go 1000 recharge cycles. That doesn't really do much to solve the problem; assuming that a cycle is used every two days, the battery pack is only good for around 6 years. The battery packs still cannot be recycled cost effectively, are difficult to store safely, and are in general, an environmental disaster waiting to happen.
 
Justwondering said:
In the 60's and 70's we were promised flying cars.

I
am
still
waiting.....

JW
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The way some people drive a car that's sits on 4 tires, I sure as hell don't want them in a flying car!

If they can figure out this cold fusion thing (and maybe warp drive as well, lol), THEN we can talk about electric cars! Still don't want one personally. I MUST have that engine sound, preferably a V-8 sound but even a V-6 is (or I-6) is OK also. :cool:
 
I'll say one thing the new E-Mustang sure is getting outstanding mileage here on one charge!
 
Here is some Tesla information/videos. If you watch both videos I would be interested to know what you think.

 
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Well, everyone, including myself, can huff and puff, but electric is here and only going to become more prevalent. So, here is something that just came out, and it is interesting. I imagine that it would only work for city dwellers at this point, but for the city, it would be great. I expect that electrics are quickly going to become mainstream, offered in all sorts of configurations and, and as in most things, there are both advantages and disadvantages. Well, "Change Happens" (which I prefer to "S**t Happens"). An interesting thought that I had when I saw this was: "Humm, for $6500, I could have an F body in mediocre shape, or a brand new Ami." Again, advantages and disadvantages. Change happens.

 
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